Video - Nevel Vs Deuel - 10 Ball match where Deuel uses softbreak

I just finished watching the match and here a few things I noticed.

1. Corey never made the 1 ball in the side. His main goal is to break and play safe, thereby always putting his opponent in a pushout situation which always favors Corey. Corey did make a show of it throwing his hands in the air acting like he was robbed of making the 1 in the side.

2. This is a great way to put your opponent on tilt and knowing how predisposed Nevel is to going on tilt, this was a smart strategy. Not saying I agree with it, but it worked to perfection. Nevel started the match freewheeling and got to a 4-0 lead, but the first time Corey broke the balls it changed the entire momentum of the match.

3. If you are gambling with someone and you are receiving a 1 or 2 ball spot, this would be an awesome break. You'd always have 1 or 2 money balls tied up and your opponent would almost never have the opportunity to runout on you. So more than likely you'll always get a chance at the table to fire at a money ball. Say it gets late in the rack and your money ball and the 10 are tied up, it may not be a bad idea to slam into the balls and get two money balls flying around the table. And since they are almost always in the same position after the break, you could practice firing away at those balls and see the path that each ball follows and even learn to play safe off slaming into them.

4. If you use this break on someone that has never seen it, it would be quite unsettling to your opponent and he may not know how to deal with it.

5. Corey always looks for an opportunity to get his opponent behind the cluster.


Anyways, just some random thoughts after watching the match.
 
I watched most of the Deuel/Owen match that Saturday, and Corey did indeed pocket the 1 ball with that soft break several times. He may just not have pulled it off vs. Nevel, or he may have switched things up a bit between matches.

Looking at the video, if my memory serves, Corey was putting the cue ball a bit closer to the rail for the break vs. Owen as compared to where he's putting it vs. Nevel.

But one thing that's very consistent - the 8/9/10 cluster that pretty much doesn't move.
 
Just watched the video while doing the taxes last minute...

Man, did Nevel get pissed after Corey started breaking soft!!

It seemed to me that Corey's main goal was to push the one towards the side pocket and leave the cue behind the remnants of the rack. He obviously knows the one might go in, but I think he is focusing on playing safe.

Anyway, I think Nevel still could have taken this down -- even if at a disadvantage in a push-out battle, but he really lost his cool.
 
Nevel raked the balls in the first time before Corey ever broke. That was a fun match to watch.
 
lol Larry had a chance but jsut gave it away..............

Does anyone else think Larry's play is kinda wild? he tends to move the rock aroudn the table for more than he really needs to....unless he was jsut pissed
 
cajunbarboxplyr said:
lol Larry had a chance but jsut gave it away..............

Does anyone else think Larry's play is kinda wild? he tends to move the rock aroudn the table for more than he really needs to....unless he was jsut pissed
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Watched it and that soft break was brutal!! in my opinion thats bs! breaking like that leaves me to believe cory feels he can not win strait up. Seems like its bit of legal sharking to me I would have been pissed off if I were larry. At tournament level they shouldnt allow that break, fans of the game want to see run outs.

In hockey the weaker teams play a system called the trap to try and give them selves a chance of beating the stronger teams, not fun to watch or play against. They have placed rules to try and stop it and make it a free flowing game that everyone likes to watch.
 
Deuel did not win this match, Nevel lost it. Nevel got control of the table many times after the soft break, but behaved immature and gave it away.

Kind of embarrassing to see his last shot, and then conceding the match with 8 balls left on the table, including one cluster. Very unprofessional behaviour, and he was obviously not in balance. Perhaps there is a history between these two?

I dont feel that this break is that effective against a player who can keep his composure. Deuel trailed 0-4, and started to softbreak. That means a lot of safety battles. Between to good players, safety battles normally means that you trade games. Nobody runs away. Nevel could have let the percentages work, and probably just kept the same lead until the match was over.
 
pooladdict said:
Deuel did not win this match, Nevel lost it. Nevel got control of the table many times after the soft break, but behaved immature and gave it away.

Kind of embarrassing to see his last shot, and then conceding the match with 8 balls left on the table, including one cluster. Very unprofessional behaviour, and he was obviously not in balance. Perhaps there is a history between these two?

I dont feel that this break is that effective against a player who can keep his composure. Deuel trailed 0-4, and started to softbreak. That means a lot of safety battles. Between to good players, safety battles normally means that you trade games. Nobody runs away. Nevel could have let the percentages work, and probably just kept the same lead until the match was over.
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I agree with you for the most part. When I went to the Derby City Classic in 2006 and 2007 I saw Nevel break out in bursts of anger over things not in his control or one bad shot MULTIPLE times. Like you said, he came to the table with opportunities every time even after the initial push out. You just can't get upset like that and expect to pull out the win. Not against a stone cold champion like Corey. It might work against the lil fish though. Corey simply used the break to his advantage like it should be.
 
champ2107 said:
Watched it and that soft break was brutal!! in my opinion thats bs! breaking like that leaves me to believe cory feels he can not win strait up. Seems like its bit of legal sharking to me I would have been pissed off if I were larry. At tournament level they shouldnt allow that break, fans of the game want to see run outs.

In hockey the weaker teams play a system called the trap to try and give them selves a chance of beating the stronger teams, not fun to watch or play against. They have placed rules to try and stop it and make it a free flowing game that everyone likes to watch.
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Here's the deal. I'll bet you any amount of money that if you went up to Corey before this match, and said, "Hey Corey, I'll offer you 1st place prize money IF you don't soft break the entire match." He would've taken the offer, and the results are likely to be the same.

However, in all reality, Corey doesn't care what you want to see. Sorry : (
 
This is obviously a very smart break.. As we know on a 10 ball rack the 2 & 3 must be on the back corners..

It's pretty clear he's playing the one in the side with such a soft speed that the 2 & 3 will stay at that end of the table..

So him coming behind the rack on the break will either give him a shot at the 2 or safe one the 1 if he misses it in the side on the break..

Yes I know captain obvious..

If they switch it up and allow the 2 ball in a different spot he will have to change his break a little..

Also, With the balls being clumped together it really becomes a who moves best game..

All he did was take what everyone else has, Which is the choice on how they want to break, and made it work to his advantage..

I agree it's a little irritating to be kicking or pushing out the first shot of every game but how can you fault him?
 
AceHigh said:
Here's the deal. I'll bet you any amount of money that if you went up to Corey before this match, and said, "Hey Corey, I'll offer you 1st place prize money IF you don't soft break the entire match." He would've taken the offer, and the results are likely to be the same.

However, in all reality, Corey doesn't care what you want to see. Sorry : (
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At tournament level they shouldnt allow that break, fans of the game want to see run outs I am just saying this to try and make the game bigger than what it is.imo

"Corey doesn't care what you want to see" I agree with you there.
 
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I wish someone would have told me that he doesnt concede the game until the very end of the match. Larry played a great first few games, till Corey changed the pace.
 
I would find it less frustrating playing a guy breaking soft than Nevel having multiple balls moving during run outs. Does he play like that all the time? I think he had 5 balls moving during one run. Every rack his CB hit balls or had bad shape. Maybe he got pissed at his play and Deuels' break put him over the top. I also didn't like seeing him give away the racks. I think a person should lose the next rack when they do that!!!
 
This was the most hilarious match I've ever seen. Corey is a genius when it comes to shit like this. Having played golf with him several times, and talking with him about stuff like this, he researches and finds ways to win more and better than anyone out there. Everyone also got to see what a big baby Larry Nevel is. He has acted like that in every match I've ever seen him play. He whines and moans in almost every match if it isn't going exactly his way. Instead of going on tilt and raking the balls, which was part of Corey's strategy, Mr. Nevel should have grown a pair and adapted to what his opponent was doing.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
I would find it less frustrating playing a guy breaking soft than Nevel having multiple balls moving during run outs. Does he play like that all the time? I think he had 5 balls moving during one run. Every rack his CB hit balls or had bad shape. Maybe he got pissed at his play and Deuels' break put him over the top. I also didn't like seeing him give away the racks. I think a person should lose the next rack when they do that!!!
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They do that at DCC 9 ball... You give a game it costs you another game.. You tap balls during racking it can cost you a game too.. Thats how it was when I was there last anyway..
 
One other factor to take into account - those tables they were playing on, it's not hard to rattle a ball out of a corner. I've played on those same tables quite a number of times.

I even heard spectators making comments about the tables :)
 
Not only the fact that Deuel could rattle the ball, people there want to see these guys play. I don't know but if I paid for seating and had to watch a guy giving almost full racks, I would be pissed. It would be like watching Tiger play golf and after the tee shot they tell him to pick it up. Its in the middle of the fairway and you will birdie from there.
 
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