Video of Falcon vs Ceulemans 158 minutes

billiardshot said:
a new 3 Cushion Billiard video on stag6.divx.com - Falcon vs R. Ceulemans 158:00 minutes running time.

http://stage6.divx.com/user/jadelosreyes/video/149282/Falcon-Vs-Ceulemans
http://stage6.divx.com/videos/tag:billiard

Btw, the poster of these videos lives in Spain, and his blog (in Spanish) can be found here:

Entrada51

He tends to go into more detail about the videos there.

Also, you won't believe what he told me is coming soon: a video of Eddy Leppens running 25!!!

Robert
 
After Falcon runs three and then misses in the first several minutes of the video it looks like Ceulemans maybe pulled an intentional safety in which an attempt to score was not made. Does it look like that to anyone else? If not, maybe a miscue?

I'm too young to know if such attempts at safety were ever allowed. Someone please educate me.
 
HomeBrewer said:
After Falcon runs three and then misses in the first several minutes of the video it looks like Ceulemans maybe pulled an intentional safety in which an attempt to score was not made. Does it look like that to anyone else? If not, maybe a miscue?

I'm too young to know if such attempts at safety were ever allowed. Someone please educate me.

I believe you were allowed a certain number of deliberate safeties in the days of Hoppe and Cochran, but not in 1998! :)

Although Ceulemans is known for being a defensive player, that was most certainly a miscue. He was frozen to the cushion trying a very delicate short angle shot, and just played a little too far off-center. It's easy to do that if your stroke is too level, which is why I elevate slightly when the ball is stuck on the cushion like that. You have to allow for slight curve, but it's better than miscuing.

Robert
 
HomeBrewer said:
After Falcon runs three and then misses in the first several minutes of the video it looks like Ceulemans maybe pulled an intentional safety in which an attempt to score was not made. Does it look like that to anyone else? If not, maybe a miscue?

I'm too young to know if such attempts at safety were ever allowed. Someone please educate me.

That was definitely a miscue.

The second question is rather more complicated. As Robert stated, in the days of Hoppe and Cochran deliberate safeties were very much part of the game. At some point (in the 60's?) the official international governing body (the UMB?) made a rule that forbid intentional safeties. For a while there were two competing organizations in the United states: The Billiard Federation (BFUSA) allied with the UMB, and the American Billiard Association (ABA). Roughly speaking these were the amateur branch and the professional branch. The BFUSA went along with the UMB forbidding safeties, but the ABA allowed them -- no limit on how many per game, but not allowing two in succession. The ABA ceased to exist around 1980 (?) and the BFUSA morphed into the USBA (about the same time?).

The problem always was, what constitutes an "intentional" safety and what should the penalty be for commiting this "foul". One very well-known American player (let's call him #######) was famous for miscueing at strategic times, and the US three-cushion community coined the phrase "a ####### safety" to describe this occurrence -- a miscue that results in a safe leave.

About a decade ago the UMB removed all reference to safeties from the official rules. The reasoning was that with player averages creeping up toward 2 billiards per inning in three-cushion, and with players capable of running out entire matches in the smaller games, there was little or no advantage for a player not to try to score; and it had always been such a gray area.

My understanding is that at present there is no prohibition against intentional safeties in any official rule set.

There may very well be factual errors in my statements, and I welcome any and all corrections.

Mark
 
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