vimeo

[driven]

I am trying to upload a 14 min. vid to vimeo. right now it is at
140.89MB of 358.19MB (1.06MB/s) / 03
and only 39percent. and it has been 30 mins already. I think i am doing something wrong as 1.5 hours for a 14 min vid doesn't seem right.
it is a digital camera, no hd.
any ideas?

 

[sfleinen]

I am trying to upload a 14 min. vid to vimeo. right now it is at
140.89MB of 358.19MB (1.06MB/s) / 03
and only 39percent. and it has been 30 mins already. I think i am doing something wrong as 1.5 hours for a 14 min vid doesn't seem right.
it is a digital camera, no hd.
any ideas?

It could be normal for your Internet connection. A lot of folks may not realize that "home" broadband Internet connections (e.g. cable, DSL) are asymmetric in nature -- meaning, the upload and download speeds are designed to be completely different. Home-based broadband connections (as opposed to business-class DSL or cable) are "lion's share" download-heavy, meaning that the ISP (Internet service provider) optimizes the connection for downloads, not uploads. And, having a low upload speed almost guarantees that you're not going to try to use a "home"-based Internet plan for commercial use (e.g. hosting a website -- where people would be downloading from you, which is an "upload" from your perspective).

It's not uncommon for home-based broadband to be lopsided numbers, like: 1MB/sec upload, 5MB/sec download -- or even more lopsided than that (I've seen 1MB/sec upload, and 15MB/sec download).

If you do a speedtest on your Internet connection (e.g. http://speedtest.net/), you should be able to see the disparity in your upload/download speeds.

Also, one other suggestion would be to temporarily disable any anti-virus while you're uploading videos. Reason: some anti-virus packages, being "signature"-based, will sometimes "see" an interesting series of bits in your upload stream, and pause the stream for "inspection." In other words, they think they see "a virus" and are analyzing the stream before it leaves the computer, and this process ends up hanging the stream at a particular spot.

Hope this is helpful!
-Sean

 

[dmgwalsh]

I am trying to upload a 14 min. vid to vimeo. right now it is at
140.89MB of 358.19MB (1.06MB/s) / 03
and only 39percent. and it has been 30 mins already. I think i am doing something wrong as 1.5 hours for a 14 min vid doesn't seem right.
it is a digital camera, no hd.
any ideas?

358 mb for 14 minutes is quite a bit. I would try to compress it or convert.

Windows movie maker might work. you could bring it down to a 50mb file pretty quickly in WMM and the upload would not take long.

Sometimes windows movie maker will not work for me and then I have to use auto gordian knot or some other software to convert and it might take longer.

My camcorder takes videos that are way too big and I always convert before uploading.

 

[driven]

up, ur right on sean
download 10.46 mbps
upload is only 1.06
I guess i need to figure out how to compress now
thx guys
steven
things used to be a lot simpler...

 

["CaliRed".]

Every ISP I've ever seen, always has a slow (relatively speaking) upstream connection compared to their downstream connection. For example mines only 5 mb down and 1 mb up, but I'm out in the boondocks so I'm happy as hell with that. Before I was getting 15-20 mb down and 2 mb up.

So yes, it's going to take awhile to upload your video. Vimeo is known as a great place to upload high def video. When uploading videos, I always try and upload the best quality that I can, depending on the source video. If it's a tape or VHS, I know I'm not going to get all that great of quality, so I'm going to keep it lower quality, but as near as the source quality as I can. It does no good to take a 720 x 480 at 4000 VBR or CBR (variable or constant bit rate in kbs) and create a higher VBR/CBR or higher resolution from it.. it's going to look like crap. You can't make things better then they were to begin with.

Now my camcorder spits out video that is 1920 x 1080 in full High Definition at 60 frames a second progressive. It's bit rate is at around 25 mbs. Compared to above video I was talking about, which is 4 mbs bit rate.

So my camcorder is spitting out higher quality video then the BluRay standards are. GIves me plenty of room to play with:smile: Now obviously, is does not good to upload something that large, because the video hosts are going to re-encode it and bring it down to their standards.

As you can see below.. a 2 min video is 350 mb. Which is about 1 gigabyte for every 5 mins of video you shoot. Which is why I have about 8 terabytes of hard drive space. Takes a lot to store this stuff:smile:

But the bottom line is this. If you care about your video and how clear it is, upload the highest quality you can, that makes sense. If you have a limit, such as vimeo does for free users which is 500 mb a week, and you want to upload a few videos, then you might have to re-encode them down a little to fit. Or if you don't care if you upload only 1 video at 500 mb a week, then upload a nicer one. If there is no limit, then upload the highest you can (look at the video host's limits though, does you no good to upload something that they're only going to turn around and re-encode it down quite a bit)

I love clear quality, I can't stand crappy video. I"m a bit anal in that respect. I love as clear as a picture as I can have, in as high as resolution as I can get. Those smaller videos might not look too bad when you have them small, but what happens when you go full screen? Looks like crap. Check out my Derby City videos on Vimeo such as this one https://vimeo.com/20189419 Make sure you choose Full Screen. Wait till you see me zoom in on the table. Makes movement in my shorts:embarrassed2:

Anyways... it's your call, but do some reading up on uploading videos, vimeo has a nice help system and also some forums, so you got plenty of info to learn from.

Have fun !!!

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : S:\Camcorder\2011 DCC - Jan 29 2011 - Day 9 - Saturday\20110129\20110129_Jimmy Mataya Interview.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 358 MiB
Duration : 2mn 1s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 24.8 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 28.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=30
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 2mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 23.5 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 26.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 59.940 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.189
Stream size : 340 MiB (95%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 129
Duration : 2mn 1s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -33ms
Stream size : 3.70 MiB (1%)

 

[sfleinen]

Every ISP I've ever seen, always has a slow (relatively speaking) upstream connection compared to their downstream connection. For example mines only 5 mb down and 1 mb up, but I'm out in the boondocks so I'm happy as hell with that. Before I was getting 15-20 mb down and 2 mb up.
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Greg:

True enough -- but be careful with the bucket broadbrushing with "every ISP you've ever seen." For *home* broadband connections, yes, you are correct -- all that stuff is asymmetric. But once you start to get into SOHO or business class broadband, those are symmetric -- upload and download speeds usually exactly the same. (As an example, if you've ever seen acronyms like "ADSL" and "SDSL" -- those are asymmetric and symmetric DSL offerings, respectively.) Of course, there are cable providers out there -- e.g. Comcast -- who are trying to blur this distinction, by ramping up the speeds of their asymmetric "home" offering and offering it as "business class," in the hopes that most businesses would not "feel" the upload/download difference. (Hey, they had the infrastructure built for asymmetric Internet, and comparatively speaking, they were late to the game of "business class" Internet offerings -- they were chasing the Telco's here.)

And, when you step out of business class broadband, and get into dedicated Internet feeds (e.g. T1, DS3/T3, SONET ring, optically-coupled fiber [OC1, OC3, etc.]), those are not just symmetric (upload/download speeds exactly the same), but are SYNCHRONOUS and FULL DUPLEX as well. That is, on broadband, if you're uploading a file, if you try to download something at the same time, your download speed will come to a crawl. Try it! Not so with dedicated Internet feeds like, say, a DS3/T3 -- your upload "pipe" is completely separate from your download "pipe" and one does not affect the other.

Take it from a guy who architects, installs, and supports this stuff all day long.

EDIT: by the way, that's some EXCELLENT information you posted on how to make "quality" decisions when compressing video files with a lossy compression algorithm. You definitely know your stuff!

-Sean