Vintage Cue expert needed.......

i210mfu

i210mfu

Markus
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Vintage Cue Expert Needed...

I recently bought this old cue. To me it seems as it is an old Richard Helmstetter from either the late 60's or 1970. It is in great condition and plays very well. Could anyone help me in figuring out if it is an old Helmstetter and which year it was most likly made? Furthermore I would like to get a clue on what the actual value of this cue would be in the US.

Thank's in advance for any help provided.

Markus
Germany
 

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i210mfu said:
Vintage Cue Expert Needed...

I recently bought this old cue. To me it seems as it is an old Richard Helmstetter from either the late 60's or 1970. It is in great condition and plays very well. Could anyone help me in figuring out if it is an old Helmstetter and which year it was most likly made? Furthermore I would like to get a clue on what the actual value of this cue would be in the US.

Thank's in advance for any help provided.

Markus
Germany
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I am definately not an expert, but I think it would be helpful to post some more pictures. We can't really see the pin, the joint rings, or the butt and bumper. These things can be important in trying to ID a cue. If it is what you think it is, then congradulations!
 
The points don't seem deep enough to be a bushka.

Joe Van will be back from Valley Forge soon; I'm sure he can shed some light on the cue.

-Roger
 
The inlay work with the dots looks like a bushka to me, but a lot of people were doing that stuff. Your right though the points typically have more veneers and more color. I am curious though to see what it is. And what blank it was from (ie a burton)
Jordan
 
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Hi there,

as requested :-) here are more pics of the old cue. Thanks a lot to all helping to indentify this cue....

The joint is made of brass. The joint collar is steel. The veneers have 3 colours. The points are spliced and the inlays are handemade and not cut with a CNC (you can tell because the are not all the same or the excact lengh). The rings in the forearm and butt are not white (as they seem on the pictures) but made of wood (small rectangles). The whole design of the cue looks like a Balabushka Design. I doubt that this is one, but it is surely an old cue from around the 70's.

Regards,
Markus
 

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hiko said:
how can you tell just by looking? does the length, or width of the points provide clues?
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I guess I meant to say that the points are not close enough at the base of the forearm.

With my limited knowledge of cuemaking (and from what I saw at Skip Weston's shop), tigher points mean deeper points (and a lot more difficult-to-build points).

-Roger
 
The points are too skinny to be from Paradise, Bushka, Boti etc..
I need better pics of the joint and the butt from the wrap down.

Joe
 
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classiccues said:
The points are too skinny to be from Paradise, Bushka, Boti etc..
I need better pics of the joint and the butt from the wrap down.

Joe
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Hi Joe,

well the cue gets a refinish at Eurowest right now. I will post new pictures as soon as it is ready. The joint is a brass joint and looks pretty much like a Meucci joint screw. All inlays are wood execpt for the diamonds and the round dots (don't now the proper English word for it) The butt colour (wood) is a very dark brown rather than black.

Markus
 
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