Vision Center

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Is the vision center supposed to be the same for all shots? If I have a long straight in shot then my vision center is under my right eye. If I hold both hands up and make a circle focusing on a far away object then my right eye is dominant. When i hold up my right hand only and make a circle my left eye is dominant. Is it possible for the dominant eye to shift based on some reference point? I have been toying with the idea of having my left eye over the cue when cutting balls to the right and my right eye over the cue when straight in and cutting balls to the left. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this as far as eye dominance or a shift in vision center?
 
Is the vision center supposed to be the same for all shots? If I have a long straight in shot then my vision center is under my right eye. If I hold both hands up and make a circle focusing on a far away object then my right eye is dominant. When i hold up my right hand only and make a circle my left eye is dominant. Is it possible for the dominant eye to shift based on some reference point? I have been toying with the idea of having my left eye over the cue when cutting balls to the right and my right eye over the cue when straight in and cutting balls to the left. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this as far as eye dominance or a shift in vision center?

Hi there,

to put the *vision center* into the right place is of course important. It s simply a physically/naturally given thing. This has just to do with how many nerves/impulses are *travelling* between the brain and the eye (very simplified).

The key is to find out your complete correct set up position. So that you can deliever the stroke in a perfect straight line by having your *vision center* also on this line. Many (in my opinion and from my expirience) are overcomplicating it. For students which are having trouble with it, i use the same method for decades.

Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNLGgfrNavg

This is in my opinion the easiest and best method-- with a knowledged guy together at the table you ll find out very fast how you *have to stand* at the table-and how to position your vision center to *look right*.

To have the head in the correct position works wonders :) (next to have a repeatable straight stroke ^^).

lg
Ingo
 
Is the vision center supposed to be the same for all shots? If I have a long straight in shot then my vision center is under my right eye. If I hold both hands up and make a circle focusing on a far away object then my right eye is dominant. When i hold up my right hand only and make a circle my left eye is dominant. Is it possible for the dominant eye to shift based on some reference point? I have been toying with the idea of having my left eye over the cue when cutting balls to the right and my right eye over the cue when straight in and cutting balls to the left. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this as far as eye dominance or a shift in vision center?

Where I live, a vision center is a store where you have your eyes checked and purchase glasses. Obviously, that's not your interpretation, so what do you mean by a vision center?
 
Hi there,

to put the *vision center* into the right place is of course important. It s simply a physically/naturally given thing. This has just to do with how many nerves/impulses are *travelling* between the brain and the eye (very simplified).

The key is to find out your complete correct set up position. So that you can deliever the stroke in a perfect straight line by having your *vision center* also on this line. Many (in my opinion and from my expirience) are overcomplicating it. For students which are having trouble with it, i use the same method for decades.

Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNLGgfrNavg

This is in my opinion the easiest and best method-- with a knowledged guy together at the table you ll find out very fast how you *have to stand* at the table-and how to position your vision center to *look right*.

To have the head in the correct position works wonders :) (next to have a repeatable straight stroke ^^).

lg
Ingo

ingo
i watched the video
good stuff
do you know where ia can purchase that device he used???
i guess i could make one if need be
thanks
larry (bbb)
 
bbb:

officially it can be ordered here-- how i said. I know and use it since a very long time. Easy, simple and great concept. I used to built my own one. But i also ordered an original one later here.

http://www.sightrightuk.com/snookeraid.htm

I used an older thick book for it in the late 80s :)

lg
Ingo
 
bbb:

officially it can be ordered here-- how i said. I know and use it since a very long time. Easy, simple and great concept. I used to built my own one. But i also ordered an original one later here.

http://www.sightrightuk.com/snookeraid.htm

I used an older thick book for it in the late 80s :)

lg
Ingo

Great idea! Immediate and accurate feedback!

Seems a bit pricey for something which can be duplicated so easily.

Thanks Ingo!

Ken
 
Well-

this happens often- a good idea with good marketing=expensive.

Furthermore i want to say, that using this thing alone can be difficult. I really recommend a knowledged guy if you work with this thing. Because if someone really would have trouble with seeing/hitting the center of the cueball, you definitley need a knowledged person to fix it.

but this method is really a great help. (cheap or pricey :p)
 
Well-

this happens often- a good idea with good marketing=expensive.

Furthermore i want to say, that using this thing alone can be difficult. I really recommend a knowledged guy if you work with this thing. Because if someone really would have trouble with seeing/hitting the center of the cueball, you definitley need a knowledged person to fix it.

but this method is really a great help. (cheap or pricey :p)

Good idea + good marketing = expensive, yes

but

Common sense + simple idea = money saved ;)

Note on earlier post in this thread: I am speaking only of setup not stroke.

Ken
 
Fran clearly knew what I meant so I didn't think it would make much of a difference if I used the definition cited by Dr. Dave or not.
 
Fran clearly knew what I meant so I didn't think it would make much of a difference if I used the definition cited by Dr. Dave or not.

I find it in poor taste when someone reinvents a new meaning for a word or phrase that already has a well-understood meaning.
 
I find it in poor taste when someone reinvents a new meaning for a word or phrase that already has a well-understood meaning.

Reinvents? I merely asked a question. I thought this forum was about asking instructors questions which you would like to know the answers to. I have seen similar things posted in the last several days about this depending on which way you approach the shot. Now if you had said something along those lines I would have said thank you and moved on. I find many of your sarcastic comments in poor taste, especially coming from a knowledgable instructor. I think it is unfortunate because you give valuable input when that is your intention.
 
Is the vision center supposed to be the same for all shots? If I have a long straight in shot then my vision center is under my right eye. If I hold both hands up and make a circle focusing on a far away object then my right eye is dominant. When i hold up my right hand only and make a circle my left eye is dominant. Is it possible for the dominant eye to shift based on some reference point? I have been toying with the idea of having my left eye over the cue when cutting balls to the right and my right eye over the cue when straight in and cutting balls to the left. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this as far as eye dominance or a shift in vision center?


I am not an instructor.

Go to this link. It may clear up a few things concerning vision center.
A lot of reading but well worth the time.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=297099

Most of all have fun. :)

John
 
Reinvents? I merely asked a question. I thought this forum was about asking instructors questions which you would like to know the answers to. I have seen similar things posted in the last several days about this depending on which way you approach the shot. Now if you had said something along those lines I would have said thank you and moved on. I find many of your sarcastic comments in poor taste, especially coming from a knowledgable instructor. I think it is unfortunate because you give valuable input when that is your intention.

You didn't reinvent it. Someone else did.
 
You didn't reinvent it. Someone else did.

wow. reading this thread shows me what an inept instructor you must be.
If you had clearly read the entire question, you would have known what the OP meant by "vision center".

Most of your posts seem self-centered and egotistical. Congrats.
 
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