Wade Crane/Billy Johnson Story

Nostroke

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I have heard vague references about this over and over for years yet i have not heard any detailed info on this. There must be something unusual about this becasue it otherwise would seem to be a non story.

First of all a top player on the road with any name but John, Bill or Charlie is going to give a phony name especially if his name is Wade. Secondly I can't believe he could enter any major tournament/calcutta under a phony name without everyone knowing about it. I know it was pre internet but the top level pool community is a pretty close bunch. So what is the big deal about this? Anyone know?
 
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I'm not sure what "story" you're talking about.

It's been known for a very, very long time that Wade Crane's real name is Billy Johnson. He's been a top player from Texas for decades.
 
Nostroke said:
First of all a top player on the road with any name but John, Bill or Charlie is going to give a phony name especially if his name is Wade. Secondly I can't believe he could enter any major tournament/calcutta under a phony name without everyone knowing about it.

Nostroke, Do you know who Caesar Morales is? Neither did the folks he played against in one of his first American tournament appearances. He's pretty well known now I would say. Don't know too many people that will play him heads up for the cash and like it.
 
cardiac kid said:
Nostroke, Do you know who Caesar Morales is? Neither did the folks he played against in one of his first American tournament appearances. He's pretty well known now I would say. Don't know too many people that will play him heads up for the cash and like it.


Cardiac KId- Do you realize Caesar Morales/Efren was a foreigner, the first time in this country. Quite a difference!

I edited as it appears that some thought i didnt understand. I know the whole Red's tournament thing etc. And Buddy Hall did match up with him btw at that tournament and took the cash too.
 
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Sorry - You have it ass-back-wards!

BackPocket9Ball said:
I'm not sure what "story" you're talking about.

It's been known for a very, very long time that Wade Crane's real name is Billy Johnson. He's been a top player from Texas for decades.

"Billy Johnson's" - REAL name is Wade Crane.
 
Nostroke said:
Cardiac KId- Do you realize Caesar Morales was a foreigner, the first time in this country? Quite a difference!

One of the top hustlers in the country stopped in last year. He and a friend put on such a wonderful show of ineptitude it was unreal. When I inquired about him afterwords, my inquiries were greeted with "you don't know who that was?". I guess if you didn't know Billy Johnson, you might also not have known Wade Crane or made the connection. I believe it is the reason why some road players do not want to have their photos taken at the DCC. If they enter, they must have an ID as well.
 
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cardiac kid said:
Nostroke, Do you know who Caesar Morales is? Neither did the folks he played against in one of his first American tournament appearances. He's pretty well known now I would say. Don't know too many people that will play him heads up for the cash and like it.


:D efran reyes
 
cardiac kid said:
One of the top hustlers in the country stopped in last year. He and a friend put on such a wonderful show of ineptitude it was unreal. When I inquired about him afterwords, my inquiries were greeted with "you don't know who that was?". I guess if you didn't know Billy Johnson, you might also not have known Wade Crane or made the connection. I believe it is the reason why some road players do not want to have their photos taken at the DCC. If they enter, they must have an ID as well.


Yes i realize road players use phony names but that is not worthy of the attention that Wade/Billy has gotten. If that is the full story-that Wade Crane used a phony name on the road then that is the worst piece of pool lore ever! It isnt worth the extra ink! Im still hoping there is a good story somewhere but those hopes are diminishing.
 
cardiac kid said:
Nostroke, Do you know who Caesar Morales is? Neither did the folks he played against in one of his first American tournament appearances. He's pretty well known now I would say. Don't know too many people that will play him heads up for the cash and like it.

That is not exactly accurate, I played in that Red's tournament. No one knew it was him with the phony name and he went for $100 in the Calcutta to one of his buddies. But when he showed up at the tournament a lot of players knew him, I think Sigal had played him some rotation only a month earlier in Cal. It is common to play on the road with an assumed name. Not because anyone may know you but you just want to remain anonymous. In my case if you look at my tag and know my real name, I'm in the phone book. I didn't like the idea of leaving any tracks. You run into a lot of nut cases and you don't need it. You never tell anyone your name or where you are from.
 
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Wade got to be so well known as Billy Johnson that they used to call him Billy Johnson during the players auctions back in the late 80's, so that they would get higher bids, as very few knew who Wade Crane was. Phony names were sometimes used to avoid being prosecuted if trouble broke out and they managed to get out of there before the law arrived. I heard he was outside a hotel trying to decide what to call himself and looked over at the Howard Johnson' sign and said I will call myself Billy Johnson.
Here is another one: Ever heard of the great banks and one pocket player Tony Fargo? Probably. Ever heard of Tony Fergusen? Maybe, now, but not back in the 80's or early 90's. It was always Tony Fargo he went by. Yep, he was much better known by his alias.
 
cardiac kid said:
Nostroke, Do you know who Caesar Morales is? Neither did the folks he played against in one of his first American tournament appearances. He's pretty well known now I would say. Don't know too many people that will play him heads up for the cash and like it.

Watched someone do it today. Even up,race to 11, for a K. Efren broke and ran the last 3 racks of 8 Ball for the $. Opponent did not, as you mentioned, like it at all.
 
Gerald said:
Watched someone do it today. Even up,race to 11, for a K. Efren broke and ran the last 3 racks of 8 Ball for the $. Opponent did not, as you mentioned, like it at all.
I missed it. :(
But, I did see Efren ran over the Miz at the world 8-ball.
The Miz shot twice. Once after Efren missed the 8-ball clumsily.
Efren rack after rack.
Saw Efren play opposite handed or no-bridge last pocket 8-ball as well for some cash at HT. It made me sick.
 
Going by other names is common among road players then and now. There are many road players who are known by certain names in certain parts of the country and other names in other parts.

There really isn't any legal basis for any person to give his so-called "real" name to any other person or organization where there is no contract involved.

I was told a story by my friend of a time when he accused a road player of being so-and-so and the raod player offered to bet him thousand that his driver's license said that he was who he was claiming to be. They didn't bet and the road player showed my friend his license with the name he was using on it. Although the license was real, the name on it was not the road player's real name. My friend had correctly identified him.

What then constitutes an "identity"?

Back to Billy Johnson: Who can tell me what his famous challenge to the pool world was?

John
 
onepocketchump said:
Back to Billy Johnson: Who can tell me what his famous challenge to the pool world was?

If my memory serves me correctly, Wade Crane a/k/a "Billy Johnson," or "B.J." as he used to be called, challenged the pool world to play anybody on the face of the earth even in 9-ball.

Wade Crane also achieved the first documented perfect 1000 score on Accustats.
 
manlyshot said:
If my memory serves me correctly, Wade Crane a/k/a "Billy Johnson," or "B.J." as he used to be called, challenged the pool world to play anybody on the face of the earth even in 9-ball.

Wade Crane also achieved the first documented perfect 1000 score on Accustats.
Didn't Wade Crane beat Buddy Hall once straight-up on 9-ball?
A pro told me, WC is the only player he knows who beat Buddy straight up.
 
Ever hear of the IRS ?

It is hard to imagine now, the possible $$$ that was able to be made by a good hustler back in the late '60's, '70's & early '80's. I was, so I know. Once in Walls, MI at a big bar tourney the place was raided by the Mississippi Bureau of Narcotics. There was about 150 players & spectators crammed into this famous bar spot. Lots a BIG action going on. I noticed these 4 or 5 guys filtering through the crowd with baseball hats that had MBN on the front. It was obvious to me that they were carrying guns under their coats. Me and a couple of others (including the owner) saw what was going on - but we thought they were there to heist the place. I go to my car and stash my cash and was going to leave but thought I would offer my 38 revolver to the owner before I left. As soon as I go back in - they (about 12 cops) come busting into the back door and announce a raid. I have never fooled with any drugs my whole life and so I thought I had nothing to worry about. WRONG!
While searching and questioning everyone, they now find me with a loaded 38, new Lincoln Continental out front and over $28K hidden in two places in my car. Even though I had no drugs of any kind, they say there is a fellow there who will be speaking to me later down at the jail. I was busted for the gun. Well the fellow was with the IRS and I had to tell him I hadn't worked in over 8 years. They confiscated everything - Car, Cash, Clothes, Gun, My Cue (balabushka), watch & ring (?$18K) & even my private set of Pool Balls I used to carry. TOTALLY DEVISTATED - I did the only thing I ever did when I was in a jackpot - CALLED MY FATHER back in St Louis. He comes & bails me out and we find the best lawyer in Mississippi down in Jackson. My Father remembers that the previous year I had helped a new poolroom owner open his room (2 weeks) and he paid me a few bucks an hour so it was on the books and the taxes were taken out. THIS, AND THIS ALONE, SAVED MY ASS! The IRS had to give me back everything they had taken & they were pissed. The lawyer found an old Mississippi State Law (that was still on the books) that said: If you were more than 50 miles away from your residence and carrying over $50 on your person, you were permitted to carry a weapon. The CCW (carrying a concealed weapon) charges were dismissed and they even had to return my pistol. Back in St. Louis, one of the first things I had to do was talk to a taxman who worked for my brother. He said - I had better FILE for at least the next 5 to 7 years because they (IRS) would be watching me. He said it didn't matter HOW I filed (even as a Pro Pool Player) just so long as I filed. Now as you can see my name is Tom Ferry but it really is Thomas Martin Ferry and my license reads Ferry, Thomas Martin so for the following years I was Tom Martin, Whitey, and some other handles I won't reveal.
The whole point of this is - Everyone thinks the worst enemy of a Hustler is "The Nut" (and rightfully so) But the IRS can be much worse and therefore the need for AKA's and aliases are well served.
There was a full-page newspaper article written about me here in St. Louis back in '77. It is titled - "The Hustle Is On" and it goes into some pretty good detail about all of the tactics, deceptions and rewards of my pool life back then. The next day, they did a full-page article on St. Louie, Louie that was titled "He's No Hustler". The purpose of the two articles was to show the contrast of goals and talents of the two best pool players in St. Louis. The photo above is cut from this article (thanks to Hemicuda). This article has been hanging in our Family Room for years and all my kid’s friends love reading it when they come over. My Son & Daughter have been fooling around with eBay and decided to see if anyone would be interested in buying reproductions that are professionally mounted, framed and autographed. Well to my astonishment they sold 12 in (2 weeks) for $175 apiece. My attorney has told me to pull it off eBay so we could get some copy write protections before going forward with any more. I was just speaking with Buddy on Wednesday night and he has heard of it selling on eBay. He is going to add a signed statement on the bottom to attest to How I Did, What I Did, For As Long As I Did, while keeping my anonymity. When all is said & done I would rather see it available here on AZBillairds (for POOL people) than going to a bunch of squares that don't really understand "What It's All About".
 
Wade Crane's challene to the pool world was that if you came to his poolroom you didn't even have to put your cue together for a shot at winning $5000.

Wade would put up $5000 and break fifty racks. If he didn't break and run out you won that game.

No one took the bet because Billy "Wade Crane" Johnson's break was that good.

John
 
onepocketchump said:
Wade Crane's challene to the pool world was that if you came to his poolroom you didn't even have to put your cue together for a shot at winning $5000.

Wade would put up $5000 and break fifty racks. If he didn't break and run out you won that game.

No one took the bet because Billy "Wade Crane" Johnson's break was that good.

John

Anybody in the WORLD has action with that game, including Archer, Reyes, etc. NOBODY, I mean, NOBODY, is going to break and run out 25 out of 50 racks consistently. Anybody want action with that game, PM me and come on down.
 
accdealer said:
Anybody in the WORLD has action with that game, including Archer, Reyes, etc. NOBODY, I mean, NOBODY, is going to break and run out 25 out of 50 racks consistently. Anybody want action with that game, PM me and come on down.
The pros break and run out only around 18% clip if I'm not mistaken.
With ball in hand after the break, 80%+?
 
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