Was Marlon Manalo Robbed ?

Was The Shot A Good Hit Or Bad Hit?

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The cueball didn't follow though

Why do you guys keep saying the cueball followed behind the object ball? The cueball hit the rail and lightly touched the six. It's not like both balls rolled four feet together or something. The six ball hardly even moved after being contacted.

As far as everyone else not understanding the shot, I think you're wrong. They understand what you're saying (I do) but they don't agree that the cueball "followed" the object ball. I believe their contention is the cueball hit rail first and merely rolled up on the six.

Besides, I would sure accept the technical opinion of someone like Bob Jewett and some of the others on here before that of some MN nobody. Unless of course you're Jimmy Wetch. Which I HIGHLY doubt.
 
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Blue_chalk said:
Why do you guys keep saying the cueball followed behind the object ball? The cueball hit the rail and lightly touched the six. It's not like both balls rolled four feet together or something. The six ball hardly even moved after being contacted.

As far as everyone else not understanding the shot, I think you're wrong. They understand what you're saying (I do) but they don't agree that the cueball "followed" the object ball. I believe their contention is the cueball hit rail first and merely rolled up on the six.

Besides, I would sure accept the technical opinion of someone like Bob Jewett and some of the others on here before that of some MN nobody. Unless of course you're Jimmy Wetch. Which I HIGHLY doubt.
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You would accept the word of Bob Jewett over 12squared(David Gross) and and RudeDog(John Morton)? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think all he was saying is that he values their opinion on this and so do I.

As for the call, I honestly couldn't tell and therefore really have no beef with the ref's call. Even with instant replay, which we had the fortune of seeing, it still seems too tough to call.
 
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Koop said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think all he was saying is that he values their opinion on this... .
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You're wrong.

Koop said:
You would accept the word of Bob Jewett over 12squared(David Gross) and and RudeDog(John Morton)? .
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When did I say that? No, that's putting words in my mouth. Here's what he actually said, you might need to re-read it.

mnShooter said:
I can see now how few people that actually know what the hell they're talking about. The majority of voters and even well known instructors making the wrong call. Maybe you should go try it on the table before you publicly humiliate yourself. Rude dog knows a thing or two.
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Of course Rude Dog and 12squared know what they're talking about. I never challenged that. I was flat out referring to MN Shooter. He is saying that anyone that believes otherwise does not have the technical knowledge to understand what would indicate a good hit or a bad hit. I do not believe that to be true.

Can't we disagree without taking personal shots? Of course they know what they are talking about. I'm just saying that because someone has an alternate point of view doesn't mean they are not knowledgeable.
 
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Blue_chalk said:
You're wrong.



When did I say that? No, that's putting words in my mouth. Here's what he actually said, you might need to re-read it.



Of course Rude Dog and 12squared know what they're talking about. I never challenged that. I was flat out referring to MN Shooter. He is saying that anyone that believes otherwise does not have the technical knowledge to understand what would indicate a good hit or a bad hit. I do not believe that to be true.

Can't we disagree without taking personal shots? Of course they know what they are talking about. I'm just saying that because someone has an alternate point of view doesn't mean they are not knowledgeable.
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You're right and I'm wrong. When did I take personal shot? I was asking a question.

I'll be sure to steer clear of your posts as it seems you are the one taking pot shots with the re-read comment. Trust me, my comprehension is just fine thank you.

Bye,
Koop
 
Bob Jewett said:
It was a foul. Beyond that, it was one of the stupidest plays I've ever seen a pro player make. There were five better shots to shoot. I guess Manalo had a brain freeze. He didn't even leave Bustamante hooked.
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I agree it was a foul and was stupid.
 
Blue_chalk said:
Why do you guys keep saying the cueball followed behind the object ball? The cueball hit the rail and lightly touched the six. It's not like both balls rolled four feet together or something. The six ball hardly even moved after being contacted.

As far as everyone else not understanding the shot, I think you're wrong. They understand what you're saying (I do) but they don't agree that the cueball "followed" the object ball. I believe their contention is the cueball hit rail first and merely rolled up on the six.

Besides, I would sure accept the technical opinion of someone like Bob Jewett and some of the others on here before that of some MN nobody. Unless of course you're Jimmy Wetch. Which I HIGHLY doubt.
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OK, maybe I was a little harsh. All I'm saying is to take what everyone says on here with a grain of salt. No one can be right all the time. Heck maybe it was a foul, maybe not. But don't tell me you're right and I'm wrong unless you've watched the shot a few times and tried it on the table.
 
mnShooter said:
OK, maybe I was a little harsh. All I'm saying is to take what everyone says on here with a grain of salt. No one can be right all the time. Heck maybe it was a foul, maybe not. But don't tell me you're right and I'm wrong unless you've watched the shot a few times and tried it on the table.
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I am not saying you're wrong. I completely understand what you're saying. The cueball sets the six in motion (creating seperation) and the cueball rebounds off the end rail, following behind the object ball. If the cueball hits the rail first, it would impart almost all of its energy to the object ball and thus stop almost dead. I get that.

We just have a slightly different perception of how the balls reacted on this particular shot.
 
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To add more fuel to the fire, here is the video of the infamous Busta vs. Manalo match, courtesy of Yokita...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQPGzwcuy3w

I still think it was a foul, if you look at the camera view directly overhead (6:28 into the video). But we can all agree that it was a piss-poor decision by Marlon.

Other things to look for...Sigel hacking up the pronunciation of both Bustamante and Manalo, Busta cursing in Tagalog, and Busta making the bad-ass bank.
 
It was a foul

Yes it was a foul I think manalo has his presure coz sometime when you play especialy in big presure with too much concentration, sometimes you forgot your shot, correct me if I'm wrong
 
I thought it was a foul.

The hit between the cushion and the 6 was almost simultaneous, a very tough call though.
 
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