Weight of XTC and Juma

TwoRailDave

TwoRailDave

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I'm looking at having a shaft made with one of these ferrule materials. I want a solid maple shaft 12.8mm.

I was thinking about a .75" long uncapped ferrule with a 3/8x24 tenon or a 5/16x18 tenon. I'd like to minimize

deflection as much as possible while still having a solid shaft that I can break with. I don't like ferrule-less shafts.

Is XTC significantly lighter than Juma? How fragile would the XTC be? Any input or different suggestions would

be appreciated. Thank-you.
 
I don't like to break with juma, I prefer a harder material. You will have lots of folks tell you it is a great playing material and I will not discount that. If you are looking for a playing and breaking ferrule though, I would not pick juma.

JM2¢s,
Alan
 
Hi-quality LBM, 3/8 to 1/2" in length, 3/8 dia. tenon.
Gen3 Predator ferrules are all now LBM.

KJ
 
I have never seen Mason Micarta ( linen-epoxy ) crack .
I use them uncapped and with up to 3/8 threaded tenon.
They are lighter than Juma and LBM as well.
I don't know about XTC.
 
Both machines nicely and are quite similar in weight. I have installed both on house cues and those cues take quite a beating, no broken ferrules yet...
Since you will be breaking with your cue I recomend a LBM ferrule.
Joey mentions Micarta, I have no experience with that material, so I reserve judgement for now.
 
I'll second the new micarta, it is one of favorite ferrule materials. I think it works well as a player and breaker. Some people can not get past the off yellow color though.

Alan
 
Thank-you everyone for your help. I've noticed that PVC ferrules found on

cheaper cues often have relatively low deflection. Would XTC or another

material be close to PVC? Why is it that cue makers don't seam to use PVC?

According to the dzcues ferrule weight chart, it is relatively light. I think for

me, I can can spin the ball easier with it too, but maybe that's just placebo.
 
JoeyInCali said:
I have never seen Mason Micarta ( linen-epoxy ) crack .
I use them uncapped and with up to 3/8 threaded tenon.
They are lighter than Juma and LBM as well.
I don't know about XTC.
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I've seen it happen many times. Most of them were pretty thin-walled, though. It's still one of my favorite ferrule materials.
 
Ferrule

This might help.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-xvN6W6xhQ

Aegis II: 93
Black Canvas Phenolic: 92
Black Linen Phenolic: 93
Elforyn: 87
Fiber: 87
G10: 93
Grice: 91
Ivor-X: 96
Ivorine III: 93
Ivorine IV: 96
Ivorite-III: 93
Juma: 89
LBM: 95
Meucci Original: 85
Micarta (GE): 94
Micarta (Mason): 91
Micarta (Westinghouse): 84
MPI: 86
Porper: 87
PVC: 86
Rolled Brown Linen Phenolic: 89
Saber T: 94
Titan: 84
XTC: 83





Rob.M
 
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TwoRailDave said:
Thank-you everyone for your help. I've noticed that PVC ferrules found on

cheaper cues often have relatively low deflection. Would XTC or another

material be close to PVC? Why is it that cue makers don't seam to use PVC?

According to the dzcues ferrule weight chart, it is relatively light. I think for

me, I can can spin the ball easier with it too, but maybe that's just placebo.
Click to expand...

There are other attributes to the ideal ferrule matrl. besides wght.
I wouldn't put PVC on a house-cue.
If wght were the primary consideration, going without would be your best option;
plastic weighs more than wood.
It sounds as though you want L/D and are willing to sacrifice 'hit'.
If you want L/D, get the best L/D shaft you can find.
Trying to do it with a solid Maple shaft will be a compromise at best.
BTW, the finest L/D shafts available now use an LBM ferrule mtrl.

KJ
 
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