Weldon Rogers Stories....Would love to hear em!!!

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I was just wondering if any of you guys around here had some good stories about Weldon. I would love to hear from Jay and Keith and some of the old schoolers who either knew of or ran around with Junior. I think he's another great player that doesn't get mentioned nearly as often as he deserves. Let's hear em! :cool:
 
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A friend of mine, Dave Cardenas, used to live in Ft. Wayne, told me a couple of times, about weldon rogers being top dog in those parts. He said buddy hall claimed that rogers gave him the toughest 9-ball action he had ever had (up to that point, i'm guessing). Dave also told me about a man named Frank Lively, who apparently quit the game because no one on the planet could give him any competition. I'm looking forward to the old timers' reports on these guys.

I was just wondering if any of you guys around here had some good stories about Weldon. I would love to hear from Jay and Keith and some of the old timers around here about Junior. I think he's another great player that doesn't get mentioned nearly as often as he deserves. Let's hear em! :cool:
 
I was just wondering if any of you guys around here had some good stories about Weldon. I would love to hear from Jay and Keith and some of the old timers around here about Junior. I think he's another great player that doesn't get mentioned nearly as often as he deserves. Let's hear em! :cool:

I think there have been some threads about Weldon in the past. You could do a search and probably find some good stories about him.
 
I was doing the cue repair at one of Billy Lewis's 9Ball, Bar Table Classics when he was still on Getz Rd. in Fort Wayne. I believe it was `94-`95 or somewhere around there.
Weldon asked me to put a new LePro tip on his shaft. I proceeded to do as he asked and for whatever reason (IIRC, he had an ivory ferrule on the shaft), I decided to leave about 1/64" of the old tip on because I didn't want to get into the ferrule. I had done it 100 times before and saw no problem with it.
I finished the tip, polished the ferrule and gave it back to him.
He appeared to be pleased with the work until I told him about leaving the 1/64" of the old tip in place.
That's when he started to get a little upset. He tells me, "get ALL of that old tip off of there and put a new tip on. That 1/64" remaining tip will act just like a pad under the tip and squirt the QB all over the table."
I promptly did as he asked.

It was at this same tourney that Weldon had brought in a guy from Ky/Tn area for the event. He didn't let the guy play in the Friday night minis before the tourney and kept him in the motel room until Saturday, just before the Calcutta. Well, the guy was a total unknown and no one had seen him play.
He went for $5 in the Calcutta and went on to win the tourney, playing with a Meucci sneaky. First place was a little over $4,000.
Let me tell you, the room was stacked with talent as Billy's Classics brought out every road-player east of the Mississippi to play in them because of the huge pay-outs. Total Calcutta purse was well over $16,000.
One other memory from the event that I have is Brian Gross over in the corner flipping quarters for $500 a flip. I asked Mac Ashbey (the tournament director) how they could do this so casually. Mac replied, "Easy come, easy go. They don't care about the money. They live for the action."
Oh yeah, the guy that won the tourney; his name was Bill McCann.
The following year, one of my APA teams went to Vegas and I saw Bill again.
He was on the Pro~Tour (still playing with his Meucci sneaky).
 
I was living in Sierra Vista, AZ in 1968, next to Ft Huachuca, an army base with an AIT camp where young guys would train to go to Nam.
One of the guys was a hell of a player. His name was Joe Louis, a tall black guy with a scar on his throat like it had been slit at one time.
We took him to Tucson to play anyone there. Of course the room manager called in Weldon Rogers.
Joe Louis had no cue, and so he borrowed one of the local hustler's cues.
I think they only played for about 20 a game back then, but Joe beat Weldon for about two hours, when finally Rogers got in stroke and broke and ran three. Joe smartly quit when he was even, and of course lost the rest of his money to Alf Taylor giving him ridiculous weight in one hole.
It was rumored that Weldon would bet on just about anything, from running a foot race to playing with his cue bridged between his toes. In the late sixties he could have played with just about anyone.
 
I think there have been some threads about Weldon in the past. You could do a search and probably find some good stories about him.

I tried! Couldn't find barely anything... It's a shame because Weldon has been in the box with just about everyone at some point on the small track
 
I have nothing bad to say about Jr. (Weldon) We co-existed for many years in Arizona, often in together.

His best game was on a bar rag, and he played very solid one-handed. I was a big table player,(who couldn't make a ball one-handed)... so we rarely tangled....Jr. was a very smart hustler. I give him credit for that.

The only time we ever really got down, for big $$$...was when we ran into each other in OKcity Okla. We matched up on a 4X8 playing 9 ball, as Weldon could never even spell one pocket.

I was getting pretty much the best of it, when the bottom dropped out. I realized later, I had been "jarred." I had double vision, and was way beyond "relaxed"...my friends wanted me to go to the ER.

I won't say it was Weldon who got to me, but it was certainly someone who was in with him. Weldon was a "take no prisoner's, win at all costs" type of hustler, and I'm sure he was all for it. (jarring)

I blame myself, because I very well knew his common method of doing things. I let my guard down, and got what I deserved.

I hold no animosity towards him, but if we ever play again in this lifetime, I will be on my best behavior, My buddy (or I) got distracted...it WON'T happen again.

I hear all he plays now, is cards. I wish him only the best...always liked the kid.

SJD
 
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Can remember watching him practice before a tournament, one handed, jacked up, and running rack after rack. That would have been about '89 or '90 I'd guess.
 
Jr.

Can remember watching him practice before a tournament, one handed, jacked up, and running rack after rack. That would have been about '89 or '90 I'd guess.

When Weldon came to Ft. Wayne, he started running around with a guy who staked me once in a while. I normally played on my own money. Weldon came thru Anderson, In. and ran into a couple of my friends one night, a few months before I met him. He beat Opie out of about $90 fairly easily.

About 2 months later, I was playing in a tourney at Marion, In. and he was there. I lost early in the tourney and came thru the loser side. I beat George Breedlove in the final of the loser side, and had to play Weldon. He beat me 7-3. I watched him play a couple of pretty decent players, for $20 or $30 a game, and he played one handed resting the cue on the rail when they had no idea, he could beat em playing jacked up.

I watched him in the Gibson Girl, a strip club, trying to hustle a couple hundred out of 2 guys he was sitting with. He was gonna bet he could throw a quarter across the room, about 5 or 6 pool tables away and land it on a pool table. They wouldn't bet, so he did it anyway. Then changed the bet to landing it a hand span from the end rail. They bet $20 a piece, and he got the money.

I think when he first moved here, he played Doug Smith, who was probably the best in Indiana at the time for $5000. Doug gave Jr. the 6 ball, and Jr. had to play one handed Jacked up. Jr. got the money.

He traveled with Grady on the road. I had a couple of conversations with Grady about him.
 
About 2 months later, I was playing in a tourney at Marion, In. and he was there. I lost early in the tourney and came thru the loser side. I beat George Breedlove in the final of the loser side, and had to play Weldon. He beat me 7-3. I watched him play a couple of pretty decent players, for $20 or $30 a game, and he played one handed resting the cue on the rail when they had no idea, he could beat em playing jacked up.

The tournament I remember watching him practice was down at Conleys. Know you played in it, think Jarvis was there as well. Seems like you might of gotten in the money that day, been a long time ago and my memory fades.
 
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The tournament I remember watching him practice was down at Conleys. Know you played in it, think Jarvis was there as well. Seems like you might of gotten in the money that day, been a long time ago and my memory fades.

It might have been the tourney where I beat him the first time. I drew Strong Arm John the first round, and won the flip and ran the first 4 on him. Pretty good head start in a race to 7. A couple rounds later I beat Mark Jarvis for the first time. And if I remember right, beat Jr. the next round. I got either first or 2nd that day. I was in dead stroke and ready to play.

I tried to get Chuck and Jr. to take me on the road with them a couple of times. Chuck said I didn't know how to lay down, and always wanted to beat everyone as bad as I could. He just never seen me play the guys I had as repeat customers who would play with no weight and had no chance.
 
My Weldom stuff

I looked in my files and I have quite a bit of material about Weldon. I don't want to have to type it all again. I have a friend who is going to help me transfer it. So it is forthcoming.
Thanks for your interest in a great old time player.
 
Thanks Grady

I looked in my files and I have quite a bit of material about Weldon. I don't want to have to type it all again. I have a friend who is going to help me transfer it. So it is forthcoming.
Thanks for your interest in a great old time player.

I want to offer my condolences to you. Thanks for all you have done for pool thru the years. I have great memories of watching you gamble with Freddie, and the rest of the gang at the Dayton tournies in the 80's.
 
Talked to Jr last week, he is recovering from an attack by a pit-bull that he raised as a pet from a pup. Dog badly damaged his arm and chest(had him down and was trying to get his throat). Dog was put down. Attack was unprovoked.
 
Omg

Talked to Jr last week, he is recovering from an attack by a pit-bull that he raised as a pet from a pup. Dog badly damaged his arm and chest(had him down and was trying to get his throat). Dog was put down. Attack was unprovoked.

Sorry to hear about that. I hope he has a speedy recovery.
 
I ran with Weldon for years. I have ran with many Champions, he was the best I had ever seen. He would play for days and not miss a shot, run two or three racks and play a snooker. He played champions with the six and the break not just the six and no one had a chance. He once played a champion one handed player for five thousand jacked one handed five ahead nine ball. Weldon won the flip and ran five racks to end it. We went to where johny archer lived and johnny gave Weldon the 8 playing one handed. When it was over johnny found out who he was and said you could have just beat me even and not made me look stupid. 😁 We won a lot of money and in the early eighties I think he played his best pool. He never drank, and we played about everyday for large sums of money. The story up top when he played Doug smith he beat Doug's backer out of 70,000. When it was over Doug still thought he could win lol. Weldon was a funny funny guy that could make anyone laugh, very dry sense of humor. One time him and I took Doug Smith on the Road and Doug played all night, we get back to the room and Doug took his shoes off and we about gassed out. Weldon told him to put his shoes outside the door and to wash his feet. Doug said someone will steal them. Weldon said if someone steals them stinky sumbababeoches I will buy you a new pair. 😂 Weldon is 74 and doesn't play pool anymore his eyes don't work like they used to. He was known by most people I had ever talked to as the best hustler that ever lived. A guy up top said he got jarred while he played him, but if that happened Weldon didn't know about it. He would never stoop to a low like that, he found it a challenge to outsmart someone. More likely a side better for to him. Chuck Bradley Formally Known as White Cracka formally known as Big Sexy 😁 one last one and I have to go. A guy once told me that he practised for two years with a broom handle, he had it sanded down and the point perfect. He brought it to where Weldon was and asked for weight and he would play with a broom stick. Weldon cut the broom part off a broom at the pool hall and played him even, later the guy said he walked out scratching a broke ass, thinking he wasted two years of his life and all of his savings.
 
What does 'jarred' mean? What does 'jacked' mean? In the context of this thread.
Jacked is most likely playing one-handed 'jacked up' as in not on the rail. Jarred is usually being thrown off your game somehow. Could be physical, mental, or chemical. Used to be a bar is southern Okla. where the waitress had a squirt-gun glued to bottom of her tray. If the local hero was getting beat she might just squirt a little 'additive' in the other guy's drink. Not sure what it was but some reported blurred vision and a run to the john.
 
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