What do you guys think of my cue?

Fast Lenny

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Just felt like to post pics of my cue so i could see what you guys think,i bought it months ago,it hits great,just as good as any Southwest,Gilbert,or Phillippi i have hit with.This cue is made by Greg Kucharski out of CT,his link is www.gregskues.com ,best cue i have played with and his prices are a bargain.I am looking to have him make me another cue,a SW style cue like Ga Young Kims cue,the one i was searching for info in my old post,ebony and tulipwood points,cant wait for that,gotta get some more scratch first.:D
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Fast Lenny said:
I am looking to have him make me another cue,a SW style cue like Ga Young Kims cue,the one i was searching for info in my old post,ebony and tulipwood points,cant wait for that,gotta get some more scratch first.:D
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If you want a SW buy a SW, if you like Greg's work then have him make a cue, don't ask him to make you a knockoff.

Jim
 
I don't like many cues, but that cue has style. Very very nice. People get too hung up on brands of cues. That guy probably spent a year making that cue. It looks awesome.
 
Fast Lenny said:
Just felt like to post pics of my cue so i could see what you guys think,i bought it months ago,it hits great,just as good as any Southwest,Gilbert,or Phillippi i have hit with.This cue is made by Greg Kucharski out of CT,his link is www.gregskues.com ,best cue i have played with and his prices are a bargain.I am looking to have him make me another cue,a SW style cue like Ga Young Kims cue,the one i was searching for info in my old post,ebony and tulipwood points,cant wait for that,gotta get some more scratch first.:D
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Greg makes a very nice cue. We have a few examples on the site.

Joe
 
JimBo said:
If you want a SW buy a SW, if you like Greg's work then have him make a cue, don't ask him to make you a knockoff.

Jim

Jim,i dont want a knockoff,i just want a SW style meaning 3 high 3 low points.
It kinda like wanting a Bushka style or Szamboti style cue,you like the veneers and inlays,so you have something made similar,not an exact copy,the cuemaker still puts his touches on his work.I would not want to wait years for a custom SW either when i have hit with several and like the way Gregs cues plays,plus his price is a 1/3 of a SW.Alot of cuemakers make similar cues like SW,Bushka,Szamboti because people either cant wait or dont have the cheese for it,but want that style cue,i see nothing wrong with it,if there was then alot of cuemakers would be out of business as alot of people want there cues stylized to other cuemakers designs.;)
Lenny
 
Fast Lenny said:
Jim,i dont want a knockoff,i just want a SW style meaning 3 high 3 low points.
It kinda like wanting a Bushka style or Szamboti style cue,you like the veneers and inlays,so you have something made similar,not an exact copy,the cuemaker still puts his touches on his work.I would not want to wait years for a custom SW either when i have hit with several and like the way Gregs cues plays,plus his price is a 1/3 of a SW.Alot of cuemakers make similar cues like SW,Bushka,Szamboti because people either cant wait or dont have the cheese for it,but want that style cue,i see nothing wrong with it,if there was then alot of cuemakers would be out of business as alot of people want there cues stylized to other cuemakers designs.;)
Lenny

If you want a 3 hi 3 low 6 point cue that's fine, if you want ebony and tulip fine, but when you want SW rings and the sme butt section as a SW then you are stealing their design, like it or not it's a SW design. I guess I wasn't clear because I happen to like Greg and I like his cues, but I also like SW and their cues and when I want a SW I buy one, when I want one of Greg's I buy it, so all I said was don't have him knock off the SW design, by all means buy the cue from Grey and tell him I said Hi. BTW the Boti or Bushka argument doesn't fly with me either it happens all the time but it's not an excuse, the fact that you can't go to George or Gus at this time does throw a wrench in the works though.

Jim
 
NICE Q.....BTW I would buy what you want from who you want. Once you have it do whatever you want to do with it.
 
I understand that copying designs to a tee is incorrect but i think alot of cuemakers take bits a pieces because how much can you actually do to make your own unique design?,when someone does something really unique and differnet people look at like its ugly or not tasteful because they are use to certain designs that are common among cuemakers.I think what Adams has done with copying the designs is wrong,they are carbon copies but surely do not play the same.I have heard 2 points of views on this,some say its stealing,others say your honoring there work and making there name even more famous.I can look at alot of cues that are made by cuemakers now and say that this guy stole the rings from this cuemaker,the points from this one,the inlay patterns from here,i dont think there are many cuemakers out there that make original works in every detail,look at Thomas Wayne,he did some different designs,some applauded his work and originality and others thought they were ugly or gaudy.
 
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this is mine... (don't know if hyperlink will work though-new at all this)... his cues hit great and he does them in his basement of his house.. he does good work, he is very reasonable and a pretty good guy... one day when i was looking for a local maker as i started getting interested in cues, stumbled across his number...called him,hooked up at local poolhall, showed some interest in cuemaking so we went to his 'shop',,, some tip, ferrule work and a cue later......<G> GEEZ I'M ADDICTED.....
 
Your question was what do people think of your cue? I really like that cue. I have looked at Gregs cues close up and Valley Forge last year and the work was real clean and the details were sharp. On top of that he is a super nice guy, so how could you go wrong.
Chris
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I like the looks of this cue. Point depth/dimensions look nice and he seems to have done a nice job with the inlay work in the cocobolo and over the maple. I've seen pics of a few of Greg's cues, and they look pretty impressive. Maybe can see a few in person at the SBE next month.

Sean
 
Fast Lenny said:
I understand that copying designs to a tee is incorrect but i think alot of cuemakers take bits a pieces because how much can you actually do to make your own unique design?

I laugh whenever I hear someone say this, I guess you just either don't pay attention or have no clue. There are no limits to what can be done, if you can imagine it you can do it on a cue, with today's computers there is nothing that can't be put on a cue.

,when someone does something really unique and differnet people look at like its ugly or not tasteful because they are use to certain designs that are common among cuemakers.

Well done designs are never ugly, they may not be to someone's taste but that's why there is an ass for every seat, why people are afraid to push the limits is beyond me.

I think what Adams has done with copying the designs is wrong,they are carbon copies but surely do not play the same.

What the hell would hit have to do with any thing? I mean hit is subjective and really has nothing to do with stealing someone's intelectual property.

I have heard 2 points of views on this,some say its stealing,others say your honoring there work and making there name even more famous.

You have never heard a person who had his designed robbed think it was an honor, the people saying that are the ones stealing the designs. Those people do so because of money and a lack of skill and imagination.

I can look at alot of cues that are made by cuemakers now and say that this guy stole the rings from this cuemaker,the points from this one,the inlay patterns from here,i dont think there are many cuemakers out there that make original works in every detail,look at Thomas Wayne,he did some different designs,some applauded his work and originality and others thought they were ugly or gaudy.

I can name 20 cuemakers that have original designs, cues that from across a room most cue people would be able to tell who made it. Your comments are way off base, many of the new guys out there (making cues less then 10 years) just want to sell cues, it's a tough market with so many cuemakers and a limitted market that these guys just make knockoffs because buyers like you want the look but don't want to pay for the name, or the time that goes into the original design, and when money isn't an issue (it always is) they blame the wait list. Bottom line is stealing is wrong, and until you get a cuemaker who you are going to steal from to OK it I don't care to hear any other opinions, because the truth is none of it matters.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
He could go wrong if he asked Greg to copy another cuemakers design, don't you agree Chris??? Or would you like to go on record as saying there is nothing wrong with stealing??? I'd love to hear your opinion.

Jim

your right jim let'em all have it.:D hey i hope Joseys on that "notice from across the room" list. ;) :D
 
skins said:
your right jim let'em all have it.:D hey i hope Joseys on that "notice from across the room" list. ;) :D


Well, I guess it depends on your knowledge and exposuer, but I'll give a quick list.
1) Josey
2) Cogs
3) Southwest
4) Fanelli
6) Ginacue
7) McWorter
8) Samsara
9) TAD
10) Bender

I could go on, I could go back to the guys no longer making cues, I could talk about newer guys, less known guys that all have on thing they do that sets them apart, but again I'll just say that anyone who thinks that there are no new designs and nothing new left to do just haven't seen enough cues. Those who defend the pratice are never those being ripped off it's normally those doing the ripping that try to excuse the behavior.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
Well, I guess it depends on your knowledge and exposuer, but I'll give a quick list.
1) Josey
2) Cogs
3) Southwest
4) Fanelli
6) Ginacue
7) McWorter
8) Samsara
9) TAD
10) Bender

I could go on, I could go back to the guys no longer making cues, I could talk about newer guys, less known guys that all have on thing they do that sets them apart, but again I'll just say that anyone who thinks that there are no new designs and nothing new left to do just haven't seen enough cues. Those who defend the pratice are never those being ripped off it's normally those doing the ripping that try to excuse the behavior.

Jim


thank's for putting keith and i up top! ;) :D :D :D
 
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