what do you think about the Layani joint ?

[pbat2751]

Are you referring to the blue and white PVC tubes? I think they are really nice. He uses some thick cardboard tubes for shipping now. I miss the old white/blue tubes.

I know a guy who made a cue case for one shaft and one butt out of one of those blue/white tubes...

Regards,
Richard

I'm talking about the thick cardboard ones....

They seem to be of a thicker gauge than others

 

[recoveryjones]

I will actually be there, but I won't have a booth since I don't have any cues for sale. I'll be playing in the amateur tournament like I did last year, so we can still meet if you want.

Thierry Layani

I'm not surprised that you don't have any cues for sale. When you can't make them fast enough to keep up with all the orders coming in is every cue makers dream.

I've had my Layani for 6 months now and I must say it's the last cue I'll ever own unless I get some extra cash to go for a fancier one. The cue hits great and everyone whose tried it including a few local pros seems to agree. I know about 6 Layani owners locally and no-one is looking for another cue. You make a great product. RJ

 

[Skeezicks]

One of the Layani owners on the forum said they had a little trouble when they started out because they were getting 90%+ surface contact on the tapered fit (made the cues difficult to break apart). They fixed the problem by having less surface contact (but still having contact 360 deg. around the taper).

would vaseline help?

 

[X Breaker]

My wife and I have Layani cues and like them very much. They have low deflection and hit nicely. The stick is quite when you hit and has a very solid feel. The shaft is very easy to screw on and off if you consider that a plus.

This stick certainly can compete with the high quality cues IMHO, but it is not the end all of end alls. I still like my wife's Scruggs and Layani's cues are not as front weighted as I had anticipated and had heard from Fred Agnir. They are still very worth the money you will put out.

I am still on my search for the perfect (front weighted) cue. Right now I wouldn't trade my Sceptre for ANYTHING, but I refuse to deal with the idiot owners. Someone is going to steal my sticks one day (we all have to deal with this) and I am thus searching for the perfect replacement.

I would recommend you discussing your balance preference with Thierry Layani and I surly hope he can build you a cue to "end" your quest.

I play with a very front heavy Layani cue, the shaft weight over 4.7oz and the balance point is about 19 from the butt. Some people love my cue, and others feel that it is a bit too front heavy. The funny thing is, when they try a regular Layani cue, they all love it! When they try mine, they noticed that it is custom built and they appreciated it as being a custom cue tailored for me.

Hope this helps,

Richard

 

[The Hamster]

When should I come to Toronto, er, Scarberia ?

Dave

Anytime...

 

[The Hamster]

Maybe we can meet in Toronto and go Hamster hunting together ? I hear he has two !

Dave

LOL... Be careful... Hamsters have teeth and this one is married to a Dental Assistant so his pearly-whites are in pretty good shape.

Seriously if you do get to Toronto one of these days and want a demo, I'd be glad to let you guys hit a few with it. I think everybody expects a radical change in the feel of the Layani cue because of the joint but the fact is it's just a nice solid, quiet feel. My first impression was that it was more 'accurate' but I understand that's very subjective. I have medium Moori's on mine and it's a great combination.

 

[DaveK]

You're a good sport Hamster !

LOL... Be careful... Hamsters have teeth and this one is married to a Dental Assistant so his pearly-whites are in pretty good shape.

Seriously if you do get to Toronto one of these days and want a demo, I'd be glad to let you guys hit a few with it. I think everybody expects a radical change in the feel of the Layani cue because of the joint but the fact is it's just a nice solid, quiet feel. My first impression was that it was more 'accurate' but I understand that's very subjective. I have medium Moori's on mine and it's a great combination.

Thanks for the invite, maybe some day. I have hardly been back east since I moved back to Saskatoon (from Toronto) in 1989, but that's not because I don't love the city !

Dave, who owned a condo that you could see in CardinalSyn's old avatar ...

 

[X Breaker]

My wife explained over and over and over to him that I wanted a front weighted cue. I believe my balance point is 19 also and this is standard (a choice you get to choose from), not custom, and this is the best he could do. Plus my cue is 20 ounces. How heavy is your cue? I am going to get some lighter butt weights (screw) and make it 18.5 ounces, like my wife's cue. It is indeed front heavy.

Thanks Richard, WW

Yes, from my personal experience and from what Thierry explained to me before, I think 18.5 - 19 oz would be a lot easier to acheive the front balance that you desire. A cue at 20oz is probably going to be heavier at the butt than a cue which is lighter, I am sure you already know that.

I believe it is difficult for any cue maker to build a cue very forward balance at 20 oz unless if a very heavy shaft is utilized. Even then, I would imagine a compromise between the playability and the balance may have to be made.

If you ask me, I think it is quite a feat to have a 20 oz built with a 19 inches balance point which feels forward balance and plays well. Thierry also told me that he spends a lot of time in balancing each cue and it is the distribution of weight, not just how far the balance point is located from the butt, that counts. I find the balance of his cues one of the most evenly distributed. In my opinion, the fact that he uses no metal bolt at the A joint has a lot to do with it.

My cue only weights about 18.75 oz. I like a lighter cue because I do not really want to feel the cue after playing for say, 24 hours straight. In my experience, it helps me to mentain a smooth cueing action when I am tired after some long sections.

Is your Scruggs also 20oz or is it lighter? If it is lighter, it may feel more forward balance to you because there is less weight at the butt, plus, of course the fact that Timmy makes one of the best cues out there.

Well, these are just my humble opinions. Thank you for sharing.

If you don't mind, could I please see some pictures of your cues, I am always interested in looking at pictures of nice cues.

Thank you very much.

Regards,
Richard Chan

 

[turquoisecrazy]

Scrugg's cues are more front balanced than others because of the heavy/solid metal joint (if you don't get ivory).

I am sure someone could move the weight in the butt towards the joint. Scruggs' weights go down this way a lot anyway, but I believe if I asked him nicely he would maybe do it for me LOL. He looked at my Sceptre and said "what is that?".

My 20 oz is still not too backweighted and I still like it very much. I would send you a pic of it but it is exactly like the blue cue his shows on the internet. I really like the looks - in fact - it looks too good in that someone may catch it in their eye and recognize that it is not a cheap production cue. I need to takes some mug shots anyway of all our cues and then I will send you a pic.

thanks for sharing

WW

Went to China last month, saw a guy in a pool hall with a Layani cue! He said he buy it in Vancouver, Canada. I think he was a student in Canada going home for the new year.
The guy hits them really good, a solid A+. Took lots of cash off his friends. Lots of spin, lots of power is my opinion. Not sure about front balance ot not, but a nice balance for sure. Them Chinese were all very interested in new technology, love the joint, not happy about the price. HAHAHA.

I love my Schon, may get a Layani too. The guy's Layani shaft is real stiff, and powerful

 

[recoveryjones]

Went to China last month, saw a guy in a pool hall with a Layani cue! He said he buy it in Vancouver, Canada. I think he was a student in Canada going home for the new year.
The guy hits them really good, a solid A+. Took lots of cash off his friends. Lots of spin, lots of power is my opinion. Not sure about front balance ot not, but a nice balance for sure. Them Chinese were all very interested in new technology, love the joint, not happy about the price. HAHAHA.

I love my Schon, may get a Layani too. The guy's Layani shaft is real stiff, and powerful

Did he have glasses and was his name Paul? Was it a plain black Layani?

I'm not the narc squad LOL, however, I know a guy whose a solid A(very close to A+) player from Vancouver who was just in China and yes, he's a student. RJ

 

[turquoisecrazy]

Did he have glasses and was his name Paul? Was it a plain black Layani?

I'm not the narc squad LOL, however, I know a guy whose a solid A(very close to A+) player from Vancouver who was just in China and yes, he's a student. RJ

How good is this friend, how many racks can he run in a row?

 

[recoveryjones]

How good is this friend, how many racks can he run in a row?

No offense, but before we get to the "how many racks " question, could you please answer my questions first? Thanks, RJ

Was his name Paul?
Did he wear glasses?
Was he using a plain black Layani?