What I would do if I was elected President of the UPA

jjinfla said:
If I read the code of ethics properly I take it to mean that UPA players are prohibited from gambling.

And Section 2 (a) ...playing for profit without invitation in any pool room not sanctioned by the UPA; confuses me.

If you were a member I could see you in violation of a half dozen of the mentioned rules.

Jake, the way I read it, UPA touring pros are prohibited from gambling. A pool player who engages in a game of stakes could is in direct violation of the UPA's Code of Ethics and Rules.

When IP recently published an article about U.S. Open action, this topic was debated vigorously. There were quite a few UPA Touring Pros who engaged in a game of stakes and, according to the UPA, are in direct violation of the UPA rules.

A very well-known member of the UPA Executive Board and Rules Committee engaged in a game of stakes in full view during a Las Vegas UPA-sanctioned tournament several months ago for $3,000 a match and played all night long.

According to the UPA, the UPA Executive Board member is: Subject to the terms and conditions hereinafter set forth...agrees to abide by its Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics, Operating Policies...acknowledges receipt and understanding of the current Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics, and Dress Code...agrees that in the event of a breach...the UPA may obtain from any court having jurisdiction, such equitable relief as may be appropriate, including an injunction prohibiting any further breach...in addition to any other remedies which may be available...understands that such relief includes, but is not limited to, the obtaining of an injunction prohibiting Player from participating in any billiards event.

This particular UPA Executive Board Member is in direct violation of the UPA rules. Will he be part of the decision-making body to rule on another UPA member's fate if they get caught gambling in full view? Will he be taken to court? I doubt it. But any pool player who agrees to the above-referenced is in direct violation if they engage in a game of stakes, and when they sign a legally binding contract prohibiting gambling, they subject themselves to having the UPA obtain an injunction prohibiting them from participating in any billiards event. This end result would harm the pool player who signed the UPA contract.

As an aside, currently one member of the UPA is working diligently to help the Five Banned Players. I don't know if this would have even happened if it weren't for this thread on this forum. As of this morning, I read the newly revised Proposed Code of Conduct, and there are some changes, good changes. Maybe, just maybe, a new UPA is emerging into a membership organization dedicated "to promote the sport of pocket billiards for men and to arrange for sponsors and/or co-sponsors for professional tournaments and tour events."

ManlyShot
 
manlyshot said:

A very well-known member of the UPA Executive Board and Rules Committee engaged in a game of stakes in full view during a Las Vegas UPA-sanctioned tournament several months ago for $3,000 a match and played all night long.
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ManlyShot

If this is true, the board member is clear violation of the UPA code of conduct and must be diciplined.

Dicplined by whom? Without an approved set of bylaws, the board hold's itself above and beyond it's own code of conduct.

The UPA board of directors MUST be held accountable to the members for their actions.

The question now is...what are the UPA members going to do about it?

PoolMouse
 
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poolmouse said:
If this is true, the board member is clear violation of the UPA code of conduct and must be diciplined.

My question is...why would any pool player who knows he/she is going to be engaging in games of stake, present and future, sign a legally binding contract prohibiting gambling? It is hard for me to believe that the some of the UPA touring pro members will never engage in games of stake, i.e., gambling, not to mention "savers."

"The UPA may terminate...in the event that pool player engages in dishonest conduct, illegal use of drugs, or violations of the current Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics, and/or Dress Code, or player engages in conduct that reflects adversely on the UPA."

ManlyShot
 
Like anything else Manlyshot, someone would have to file a complaint, otherwise the powers to be just look the other way and ignore it. I doubt that anyone will be filing any complaints.
 
I remember Pete Rose's alleged gambling dilemma. MLB probably has a Code of Conduct, Code of Ethics, and Operating Policies, like the UPA, that prohibit gambling. His baseball-playing career ended.

The UPA has defined a "professional pool player," and the contract infers that games of stake are prohibited by UPA members, and there are many UPA members who do not gamble. However, if the UPA "looks the other way" and ignores it, why put it in the contract at all?

The UPA should have "looked the other way" and "ignored it" when one UPA member threw his UPA patch in the trash can (IMO).
 
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