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i was reading about the Rotation Continuous tournament at Danny K's and i was wondering if someone could explain the rules. It sounds like a pretty good game from what i hear.
What is Rotation Continuous??
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Here are the rules.
Lag for the break. Winner racks his or her own balls.
All 15 balls are racked with the one in front and the eight ball in the center. The rest of the balls are racked like eight ball.
Offensive break only, breaker must drive at least four balls to a rail. If a ball is made on the break, shooter has cue ball in hand, if not opponent has cbih.
Each player comes to the table with cbih. If a foul has been committed by shooter, opponent may pass the shot back to shooter.
Each ball counts one point and a certain number of points is played to, like 75 or 100.
Safeties are not allowed. Rotation Continuous is an offensive game only.
That's it. Very exciting to watch, because the player must try to run 15 balls in rotation and can't play safe when he gets out of line. This forces him to make a creative bank or billiard shot that maybe he hasn't even played before. More than that though, it forces the position play to be better.
Lag for the break. Winner racks his or her own balls.
All 15 balls are racked with the one in front and the eight ball in the center. The rest of the balls are racked like eight ball.
Offensive break only, breaker must drive at least four balls to a rail. If a ball is made on the break, shooter has cue ball in hand, if not opponent has cbih.
Each player comes to the table with cbih. If a foul has been committed by shooter, opponent may pass the shot back to shooter.
Each ball counts one point and a certain number of points is played to, like 75 or 100.
Safeties are not allowed. Rotation Continuous is an offensive game only.
That's it. Very exciting to watch, because the player must try to run 15 balls in rotation and can't play safe when he gets out of line. This forces him to make a creative bank or billiard shot that maybe he hasn't even played before. More than that though, it forces the position play to be better.
Danny Kuykendal said:
What happens if you foul / scratch? Do you deduct one point?
And, is it a call shot game, or can you blast away and hope - if you are stuck?
Actually, you can blast away if you are stuck. We don't typically play call pocket. This does add some luck, but also some excitement to the game.
If you foul or scratch the only penalty is that your opponent may make you shoot again. I saw no real need to deduct a ball if you scratch. Your obviously already giving up ball in hand and in the worst case you have to take your own shot over.
If you foul or scratch the only penalty is that your opponent may make you shoot again. I saw no real need to deduct a ball if you scratch. Your obviously already giving up ball in hand and in the worst case you have to take your own shot over.
Yes, Dabarbr is correct. If the ref deems that an intentional safety is played the shooter loses 15 points and the balls are reracked with his opponent breaking.
This only works if both players are going for every shot, and so far in neither tournament have we had one player playing a safety.
Safeties just don't fit in with the way the game is played, and so the players aren't playing them.
This only works if both players are going for every shot, and so far in neither tournament have we had one player playing a safety.
Safeties just don't fit in with the way the game is played, and so the players aren't playing them.
Danny Kuykendal said:
Sounds like a fun and challenging game. Will give it a try, thanks
Danny Kuykendal said:
I have to try this game
. One question though, why is a safety penalized with 15 points if the opponent can give the shot back? If you play an intentional safety the opponent is not going to shot so... why would you play safety anyway? It would be like self hooking on purpose. 
Good question and I have an idea as to why but lets wait for an answer from Danny K.perspicaz said:I have to try this game
That is a good question.
The problem with someone playing a safe, for example, putting two balls together in a cluster is that it can go on forever. Safe, safe, safe, safe, with cue ball in hand these safeties are very easy to play; you can't really hook anyone, but you can tie balls up so that the object ball can't be made. And with a full rack of balls on the table safeties are even easier to play, and more monotonous to watch.
And, if a player ties balls up while committing a foul, the shot is passed back and he just shoots a safety (ties balls up). And so now the table is equalized even though a foul was made.
One of the main precepts of the game is that when a player misses position his or her penalty is that the opponent has cue ball in hand and can take advantage of an open table. If you start allowing these kinds of safeties it no longer penalizes bad play.
Thanks for the inquiry. I'm open to all questions.
Danny K
The problem with someone playing a safe, for example, putting two balls together in a cluster is that it can go on forever. Safe, safe, safe, safe, with cue ball in hand these safeties are very easy to play; you can't really hook anyone, but you can tie balls up so that the object ball can't be made. And with a full rack of balls on the table safeties are even easier to play, and more monotonous to watch.
And, if a player ties balls up while committing a foul, the shot is passed back and he just shoots a safety (ties balls up). And so now the table is equalized even though a foul was made.
One of the main precepts of the game is that when a player misses position his or her penalty is that the opponent has cue ball in hand and can take advantage of an open table. If you start allowing these kinds of safeties it no longer penalizes bad play.
Thanks for the inquiry. I'm open to all questions.
Danny K