What is the play on the following shot?

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A league teammate and I set up this shot last night. The idea was to cut the one in the side and get position for the 3. I tried a stun shot, draw, natural angle, and even going to rails?

What is your thoughts? Also please incude what english, draw or follow you would use. I placed letters around the 3 in areas that we were trying to get to, in order to make the 3. Point B alluded us all night.

Just a thought here, but if you're on a table with very fast, slippery cloth, you could get to "B" with right hand english, coming back to the rail from where you're shooting from, then turning into running english to the end rail and up to spot "B". Very touchy shot in which you'd have to hit the 1 Ball as thin as you could with still pocketing it in the side so the CB will keep it's english until just before it gets to the rail from where you're shooting from.

Cutting the ball into the side and sliding it over to "B" is impossible with that diagram. Actually, making the ball in that side pocket and NOT hitting that rail, is impossible.


Spots "A" and "C" are pretty simple to get to, just a speed control shot. "C" can go 3 ways, 1 rail to the spot, 2 rails, or even 3 rails. 3 rails is probably the riskiest way because you could scratch into the corner pocket. If you were to choose that way, left hand english, to the rail, then the end rail near the corner, to the bottom rail up to the spot.


Good luck and remember, these are just opinions, not necessarily how I would ever shoot these shots this way. Peace, John.
 
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A league teammate and I set up this shot last night. The idea was to cut the one in the side and get position for the 3. I tried a stun shot, draw, natural angle, and even going to rails?

What is your thoughts? Also please incude what english, draw or follow you would use. I placed letters around the 3 in areas that we were trying to get to, in order to make the 3. Point B alluded us all night.

I left my cell phone at the pool hall so I had to run down there at lunch anyways today.. I setup as close to what you had pictured as I could, but these are all 9'ers and I'm not sure if your playing on 7'ers or not. As well a matter of inches really affects which way I would plan on running out.

From the closest that I could remember (setting it up) from what you have described, I found the the "easiest" shot to be to shoot with with top and just a hair of left. Cue ball comes off the side rail rebounds off the other side rail and puts you short side on the three. (By short side I mean towards the foot rail) If you hit it way too soft you have the option of banking the 3 in the opposite side, just a little too soft you can then shoot the 3 in the same side, the right speed in the corner, or too hard a makeable shot in the other corner. All of that without too much worry of accidentally scratching or pocketing the 8 accidentally.

I was able to get to B both ways.. (played on slower table) I found more success with putting alot of stroke on the ball, but hitting it softly with zero left or right.. couldn't get it exactly at "B" but close enough for government work. Hitting a little harder I was able to get back to B via hitting the side rail then foot rail and spinning it back into position with right, but playing on bar tables in league in new surroudings I don't believe that to be the right shot.

So I guess my conclusion is you can do it 100 different ways, but in my limited experiment going two rails (back n forth) left more outs if a mistake was made and required less "juice" on the cueball to execute.

If I was playing sets and it was early on I think I'd do the low right just to put a little fear in the guy I was playing.. For the nuts I'd go 2 rails in the future.

DJ
 
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