What kind of shaft do you prefer for jumping?
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I have never had the opportunity to try a carbon shaft, but am a believer in crossover materials, an it seems that carbon fiber is a very versatile material. It would be interestiing to see ewhat the Ferrari people would come up with for a pool shaft...cost notwithstanding!
I think the desired outcome can be achieved adequately with maple and tip/ ferrule technology. With the additional r&d and manufacturing costs required to change the status quo, as well as the relatively small market potential, I wouldn't want to be the one to start the change.
On the other hand, perhaps the risk reward is worth it to some.
I think the desired outcome can be achieved adequately with maple and tip/ ferrule technology. With the additional r&d and manufacturing costs required to change the status quo, as well as the relatively small market potential, I wouldn't want to be the one to start the change.
On the other hand, perhaps the risk reward is worth it to some.
drivermaker
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nipponbilliards said:
I think more importantly as a side poll you should ask about the ferrule and tip.
How are you, DM?drivermaker said:
Well, I did not ask about the ferrule and tip because I believe the Xtreme tip/ferrule design on our X Breaker is the best in jumping (and breaking for that matter). But I am wondering if there is an even better material for making jump even easier.
Just some brainstorming to see if I can come up with a better product to get the job done easier, that is all.
matthew staton
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nipponbilliards said:
I tell ya what the best jump cues on the market and easy to use would have to be a Jacoby. They have master it in my opinion so I would say the best jump cue has a finger groove and a small brass ferule and a super hard tip( I not a big fan of the one peice tip ferule thing ) and also a maple flat laminated shaft. I also have a blud jump and that jump tip he uses is awsome LOL i don't think blud likes me to much any more but call him up maybe he can help ya with the tip he uses.
Hi Matthew,
Have you tried any jumper with purpleheart, or ash before?
You see, we are always trying to make continuous improvments on our cues. That is why I did this poll.
Although I have never heard a single bad thing about how the X Breaker jumps, I am wondering if it can be even better say if I use another shaft material.
Larry Nevel jumped 1mm away with the Xtreme tip/X Breaker so I know my cue can jump, but then I am wondering perhaps with a different shaft material, more people can learn to jump closer?
I am not sure if it is possible. I am really busy now with more than 40 cues on back order but I really would like to hear some feedback from someone with experience with other shafts materials.
It is not a bad idea to seek ways to make continuous improvement I guess.
Thank you.
Richard
Have you tried any jumper with purpleheart, or ash before?
You see, we are always trying to make continuous improvments on our cues. That is why I did this poll.
Although I have never heard a single bad thing about how the X Breaker jumps, I am wondering if it can be even better say if I use another shaft material.
Larry Nevel jumped 1mm away with the Xtreme tip/X Breaker so I know my cue can jump, but then I am wondering perhaps with a different shaft material, more people can learn to jump closer?
I am not sure if it is possible. I am really busy now with more than 40 cues on back order but I really would like to hear some feedback from someone with experience with other shafts materials.
It is not a bad idea to seek ways to make continuous improvement I guess.
Thank you.
Richard
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I don't know a heck of a lot of people that jump better than Bob does, and he prefers Maple above all others.
Thank you Eydie.Eydie Romano said:
I know the good players can control where the cue ball lands--not only which direction it is going--so a different material might change the control of the landing zone.
A lot of people also believe that we need a bit of deflection for the cue to jump well, what is your or Bob's opinion on this?
Take care,
Richard
I tried several kinds of wood, whose names I don't remember or I don't know their English translation (sorry..), but my favorite is always maple, with a good hard tip (I don't like one piece ferrule-tip, and bachelite sp?) I found much more control on the cueball than any other wood.
Here in Italy there's a very popular cue game called "5 pins", played on tables without pockets, and the shafts of the cues for that game are made of various materials like carbon fiber, graphite, fiberglass, alluminium and more (also mixed wood-carbon), all of them very very stiff as u can imagine. Some poolplayers use those shafts for jumping and I tried some of them, but I always got back to maple because I don't like that kind of "dead hit" (don't know how to describe it otherwise). I know Longoni makes a break cue with a carbon shaft but I don't like it for the same reason, jmho.
Hi Richard, last week I sent an e-mail at the address I found on your website (I think you'll be able to find it easily, I mention I'm from Italy and so on..) and I received the default reply "Dear sir, you'll be answered asap". Of course I don't want to overpass any of your customers or bother you in any way, but, as I'm really struggling with my break and big tournaments are coming up, I'd like, if u find a minute, to have some of the info I asked for. Also a PM here will be fine. Sorry for this, thank you.
Francesco
), but my favorite is always maple, with a good hard tip (I don't like one piece ferrule-tip, and bachelite sp?) I found much more control on the cueball than any other wood.Here in Italy there's a very popular cue game called "5 pins", played on tables without pockets, and the shafts of the cues for that game are made of various materials like carbon fiber, graphite, fiberglass, alluminium and more (also mixed wood-carbon), all of them very very stiff as u can imagine. Some poolplayers use those shafts for jumping and I tried some of them, but I always got back to maple because I don't like that kind of "dead hit" (don't know how to describe it otherwise). I know Longoni makes a break cue with a carbon shaft but I don't like it for the same reason, jmho.
Hi Richard, last week I sent an e-mail at the address I found on your website (I think you'll be able to find it easily, I mention I'm from Italy and so on..) and I received the default reply "Dear sir, you'll be answered asap". Of course I don't want to overpass any of your customers or bother you in any way, but, as I'm really struggling with my break and big tournaments are coming up, I'd like, if u find a minute, to have some of the info I asked for. Also a PM here will be fine. Sorry for this, thank you.
Francesco
matthew staton
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nipponbilliards said:Hi Matthew,
Have you tried any jumper with purpleheart, or ash before?
You see, we are always trying to make continuous improvments on our cues. That is why I did this poll.
Although I have never heard a single bad thing about how the X Breaker jumps, I am wondering if it can be even better say if I use another shaft material.
Larry Nevel jumped 1mm away with the Xtreme tip/X Breaker so I know my cue can jump, but then I am wondering perhaps with a different shaft material, more people can learn to jump closer?
I am not sure if it is possible. I am really busy now with more than 40 cues on back order but I really would like to hear some feedback from someone with experience with other shafts materials.
It is not a bad idea to seek ways to make continuous improvement I guess.
Thank you.
Richard
LARRY NEVEL is from my home pool hall awsome talent. He comes home to beloit once in a while.I have jump with all the woods and stuff you have mentioned. I still think that maple flat laminate jumps the best because it is stiff and it is light weight.To jump a ball less than a chalk away you must have a light jump cue with a realy hard tip.I can jump over a ball a chalk away actually last time larry was in town we were jumping with a stealth jump cue he told me that he has a nice jump cue he made.he said he can jump over a ball a credit card away.Larry now works with reeves custom cue's maybe you should give him a call.
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Matthew:
I have ordered some flat laminated shafts and I will try it out when I have a bit of time. Thank you for the suggestion. I am a bit worried that they might be too heavy, but you said Dave used that on his jump cues and they jumped great? So, I will try it out.
Have you tried jumping with a purpleheart shaft?
Tom:
I have sent you a PM and an email, thank you.
Richard
I have ordered some flat laminated shafts and I will try it out when I have a bit of time. Thank you for the suggestion.
I am a bit worried that they might be too heavy, but you said Dave used that on his jump cues and they jumped great? So, I will try it out.Have you tried jumping with a purpleheart shaft?
Tom:
I have sent you a PM and an email, thank you.
Richard