What would you do as incoming player...
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There's three points of view.
#1: Did the other player foul when they played the safe off the top of the rack? By the look of the lay out, it does not look like a ball made it to a rail.
If it is a foul on their part. Play a foul.
If you were on a foul and they played a foul off the top of the rack, then:
#2: Take a soft safe coming off the 5 ball, having the cue ball on the rail by the diamond to the left of the side pocket.
They have a shot on a very hard cut down the rail. They will worry about making the the hard cut & missing which will break open the rack for you.
If they make it, then they earned it.
#3: Play a safe off the 5 ball with right English. Spinning the cue ball off the side rail up table to the lower right corner. They will have a long straight in shot with no change to break the rack. If they hang up the shot, you are in the driver's seat. If they make it, then they will have to play a safe & it all starts over again.
Hope this all helps.
There's three points of view.
#1: Did the other player foul when they played the safe off the top of the rack? By the look of the lay out, it does not look like a ball made it to a rail.
If it is a foul on their part. Play a foul.
If you were on a foul and they played a foul off the top of the rack, then:
#2: Take a soft safe coming off the 5 ball, having the cue ball on the rail by the diamond to the left of the side pocket.
They have a shot on a very hard cut down the rail. They will worry about making the the hard cut & missing which will break open the rack for you.
If they make it, then they earned it.
#3: Play a safe off the 5 ball with right English. Spinning the cue ball off the side rail up table to the lower right corner. They will have a long straight in shot with no change to break the rack. If they hang up the shot, you are in the driver's seat. If they make it, then they will have to play a safe & it all starts over again.
Hope this all helps.
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Thanks!
To give this a little more context, I played this safe this morning while practicing. I got too straight on my break ball to go into the stack so I pocketed the break ball and then played the CB into the 6 with follow. The 14 came out of the stack and off the foot rail. In other words, no fouls for either player.
So I guess option 3 would be best.
Thanks again.
-matthew
To give this a little more context, I played this safe this morning while practicing. I got too straight on my break ball to go into the stack so I pocketed the break ball and then played the CB into the 6 with follow. The 14 came out of the stack and off the foot rail. In other words, no fouls for either player.
So I guess option 3 would be best.
Thanks again.
-matthew
Correction
Matthew: my mistake. I thought the 14 ball was the break ball & did not realized it came out of the rack. I see it now.
Still all three points are good in my opinion & should help in different situations. You as the player will have to decide on which safe to take. Some times the chance works & other times they don't.
Matthew: my mistake. I thought the 14 ball was the break ball & did not realized it came out of the rack. I see it now.
Still all three points are good in my opinion & should help in different situations. You as the player will have to decide on which safe to take. Some times the chance works & other times they don't.
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Update...
I went back to the table (I left the shot set-up) and played safe off the 5 with right english. I left the CB a couple inches off the head rail and an almost straight shot on the 14. I pocketed the 14 and had to play safe from behind the stack.
Thanks again for the help,
-matthew
I went back to the table (I left the shot set-up) and played safe off the 5 with right english. I left the CB a couple inches off the head rail and an almost straight shot on the 14. I pocketed the 14 and had to play safe from behind the stack.
Thanks again for the help,
-matthew
Assume opponent's not on a foul and that the thirteen ball is not dead into the bottom corner as you didn't say so.
The two best choices are a) to concede the straight fourteen ball or b) to graze the five to leave the cue ball near the long rail.
Conceding the long straight fourteen is a much better choice. If you graze the five, you risk having your opponent leave you pinned to the three ball, creating an underneath threat with the four ball. The key here is that the eight and four are frozen to each other, making this safety quite easy to execute. Fall into this trap and you'll be way behind in the safety battle.
Of course, grazing the five may or may not leave the response described, but it's a risk worth avoiding. Even if you deny it, you might leave opponent a similar shot that would pin you to the six ball and bring the fifteen into play, which also means trouble.
Nice thread. If you want to be a good 14.1 defensive player, you need to learn how to deny aggressive responses to your safeties.
The two best choices are a) to concede the straight fourteen ball or b) to graze the five to leave the cue ball near the long rail.
Conceding the long straight fourteen is a much better choice. If you graze the five, you risk having your opponent leave you pinned to the three ball, creating an underneath threat with the four ball. The key here is that the eight and four are frozen to each other, making this safety quite easy to execute. Fall into this trap and you'll be way behind in the safety battle.
Of course, grazing the five may or may not leave the response described, but it's a risk worth avoiding. Even if you deny it, you might leave opponent a similar shot that would pin you to the six ball and bring the fifteen into play, which also means trouble.
Nice thread. If you want to be a good 14.1 defensive player, you need to learn how to deny aggressive responses to your safeties.
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