What's Most Important To Know About Playing

[drivermaker]

What are the most important factors that you should know when playing this game? How smart or intelligent do you have to be to excel at the game? What type of information can interfere with playing excellence?

I've asked these questions many times to myself over the years in striving for improved play and I'm not sure what the answers are. Many moons ago when a was a young feller that had no fear of losing life or limb, I would purposely go into some of the lowest class rooms that you could find in order to get money games. They might be in hicksville USA or on the wrong side of the tracks in a number of towns and cities where it was predominately black. There were quite a few times where I or I and another guy would be the only whites in a black pool room with all kinds of sets of eyes wondering what we were about as players, or what type of crazy f*#ks would come into their territory to begin with. Well, the reasoning behind it was simple...they always gambled and I thought it would be easy pickings to prey on some of the dumbest ass most unintelligent doofus's that could ever be found.

But guess what? Now, just like then, you can still find those rooms and get your ass waxed by some hawk-eyed shootin' SOB that can make balls from anywhere and string racks together like pop-it beads. They know nothing about physics, geometry, never knew what a tangent line was about, but could make a cue ball dance like Fred Astaire.

So, what really is important? I think you have to know how to align, aim, and stroke the cue. I think you have to have a good understanding of english, speed, banks, kicks, throw, squirt (minimal, only that the CB moves sideways a little with certain amounts of english), billiards, and a variety of shots. But I don't think any of it needs to be over intellectualized to the nth degree as many individuals with a higher level of intelligence are so apt to do. I include myself in that category, based on what I've done in school and business, as well as I.Q. testing. However, I feel that a really smart person and player learns all the shots that can be learned and HOW to perform them, not WHY they work through too much physics. This really is a simple game...there's the pocket...here's the CB and OB....make the OB in the pocket and work your way around for the next shot. If you think it requires all of the higher end learning to excel, I invite you to go to an all black room to get a reality check and to get your ass kicked.

 

[sharandrew]

Delivering the cue ball straight is the most important part of being an accomplished and competitive player. From this mechanic everything else comes, aiming, shot making, English, strategy, etc….without being able to deliver the ball straight you can’t become a good player.

 

[ramdadingdong]

What are the most important factors that you should know when playing this game? How smart or intelligent do you have to be to excel at the game? What type of information can interfere with playing excellence?

I've asked these questions many times to myself over the years in striving for improved play and I'm not sure what the answers are. Many moons ago when a was a young feller that had no fear of losing life or limb, I would purposely go into some of the lowest class rooms that you could find in order to get money games. They might be in hicksville USA or on the wrong side of the tracks in a number of towns and cities where it was predominately black. There were quite a few times where I or I and another guy would be the only whites in a black pool room with all kinds of sets of eyes wondering what we were about as players, or what type of crazy f*#ks would come into their territory to begin with. Well, the reasoning behind it was simple...they always gambled and I thought it would be easy pickings to prey on some of the dumbest ass most unintelligent doofus's that could ever be found.

But guess what? Now, just like then, you can still find those rooms and get your ass waxed by some hawk-eyed shootin' SOB that can make balls from anywhere and string racks together like pop-it beads. They know nothing about physics, geometry, never knew what a tangent line was about, but could make a cue ball dance like Fred Astaire.

So, what really is important? I think you have to know how to align, aim, and stroke the cue. I think you have to have a good understanding of english, speed, banks, kicks, throw, squirt (minimal, only that the CB moves sideways a little with certain amounts of english), billiards, and a variety of shots. But I don't think any of it needs to be over intellectualized to the nth degree as many individuals with a higher level of intelligence are so apt to do. I include myself in that category, based on what I've done in school and business, as well as I.Q. testing. However, I feel that a really smart person and player learns all the shots that can be learned and HOW to perform them, not WHY they work through too much physics. This really is a simple game...there's the pocket...here's the CB and OB....make the OB in the pocket and work your way around for the next shot. If you think it requires all of the higher end learning to excel, I invite you to go to an all black room to get a reality check and to get your ass kicked.

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Once more, you are right as rain. This is going to be a big thread, will run 5 pages as everyone gives up their inside secrets of what made them such a big champion. Allow me to give you the answer to this, it is not 2 pages of horse puckey, but 3 words.

Learn to Win.

Dont learn that, everything else is wasted time and money, wasted days, wasted nights.

Now do me a big favor here, tell dees nice people I is I, youse is youse, and Ive is not talkin to my self. Dee bozos think we are da same guy, how about you clean this up for the umpteenth time, dey just cant get it.

Yes we live in the same town, yes we both play pro golf and pro pool and we do not like bozos, but thats about it, I am much better looking than he is, and my pecker is much longer.

This is surely some milk man thing, I bet I have hundrens of hims, now running around Atlanta coming back to haunt me. I could have a thousand of them out there, how scary would that be, it could be come an entire sub race of humans. They will call them the FL's.

I dont even use the guys driver, I use a 7 degree Mizunno, when I hit it, I usually kill 2 or 3 quail in the air. It only flies 270 in the air, but it lands hotter than a brand new Puetro Rican credit card and it runs 50 yards, there are gofer heads laying all over the fairways when I come through. Fore, dudes.

The real fast larry, who is not the driver maker. They only thing I make, are the sausages. You can call me da pigeon plucker. I am nuttin but a locksmith by trade my boy, ah yes indeed.

 

[drivermaker]

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Now do me a big favor here, tell dees nice people I is I, youse is youse, and Ive is not talkin to my self. Dee bozos think we are da same guy, how about you clean this up for the umpteenth time, dey just cant get it.

Yes we live in the same town, yes we both play pro golf and pro pool and we do not like bozos, but thats about it, I am much better looking than he is, and my pecker is much longer.

Since we're disagreeing on something, does that mean that we're two different people or just an alter ego speaking to the other? The disagreement is...I AM better looking and have the larger crank. But yes...I am Fast Larry. (This should screw 'em up even worse) The saga continues...

 

[ramdadingdong]

Since we're disagreeing on something, does that mean that we're two different people or just an alter ego speaking to the other? The disagreement is...I AM better looking and have the larger crank. But yes...I am Fast Larry. (This should screw 'em up even worse) The saga continues...

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I have a coon dog better lookin than you, my crank is a yard long, fade that one. Who am I now talkin to this bozo or my self here, he has me now confused. Somebody help me here, play theme from the twil light zone.

 

[highsea]

What are the most important factors that you should know when playing this game?

Sound fundamentals and the understanding that until the last shot in the game, you are shooting the CB, not the OB. The OB is just there to help you get position on the next shot or tie up your opponent. And less is more. It's better to go one rail for position than three.

-CM

 

[LastTwo]

Hey Drivermaker, do you still think black people are the dumbest people you can find, or were you just a racist when you were younger?

 

[ramdadingdong]

Hey,

The most important thing in pool is to have fun. If you have the talent you will have fun. If you don't have talent all you will have is endless hours of practice meaning nothing, which is no fun at all.

Cheers,

Gremlin

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Very good grem, hows me fellow irishman laddie. This is why drills fail and people stop doing them, no fun.

This is why the better people get, I tell them the more time they should spend matching up.

Fast Larry Guninger the power source pool school

 

[drivermaker]

Hey Drivermaker, do you still think black people are the dumbest people you can find, or were you just a racist when you were younger?

No Last Two, I knew sooner or later some dumb shit would make a comment about that and there's no one dumber than you on this forum. You take the cake...during the time I was referring to, you weren't even a cumwad in your old man's dick. The time period and locations with the black pool rooms were filled with mostly high school dropouts. They never took algebra, geometry, chemistry, physics, languages, or cared about ANY studies. I also referred to Hicksville USA where the same high school dropout good ol' white boys hung out. I went there also. But my earliest hero in pool, Luther Lassiter, was from Hicksville, N.C. and a high school dropout, also one of the greatest players that ever lived. As a result of my going into these rooms, I had some of the greatest times and parties afterwards with black people that you could ever imagine. I remember going to a party of about 300 and I was the ONLY white guy there. I never laughed so hard and had a life long memory blast. Could you do that? Do you have the street smarts and social skills to pull that off? I don't think so! Fact is, I have a respect for blacks that you could NEVER have, not racism. Maybe you should read the newspaper occasionally instead of whacking your meat to skin magazines all the time, you might see some comments by Bill Cosby about black society regarding education that got even him into trouble. Had a white person said it, they surely would have been hung out to dry, with a total idiot like you leading the pack. The thread is about the tie in of intellect/advanced learning and pool ability, neither of which you possess... why should I expect you to respond intelligently?!

 

[Jon]

No Last Two, I knew sooner or later some dumb shit would make a comment about that and there's no one dumber than you on this forum. You take the cake...during the time I was referring to, you weren't even a cumwad in your old man's dick. The time period and locations with the black pool rooms were filled with mostly high school dropouts. They never took algebra, geometry, chemistry, physics, languages, or cared about ANY studies. I also referred to Hicksville USA where the same high school dropout good ol' white boys hung out. I went there also. But my earliest hero in pool, Luther Lassiter, was from Hicksville, N.C. and a high school dropout, also one of the greatest players that ever lived. As a result of my going into these rooms, I had some of the greatest times and parties afterwards with black people that you could ever imagine. I remember going to a party of about 300 and I was the ONLY white guy there. I never laughed so hard and had a life long memory blast. Could you do that? Do you have the street smarts and social skills to pull that off? I don't think so! Fact is, I have a respect for blacks that you could NEVER have, not racism. Maybe you should read the newspaper occasionally instead of whacking your meat to skin magazines all the time, you might see some comments by Bill Cosby about black society regarding education that got even him into trouble. Had a white person said it, they surely would have been hung out to dry, with a total idiot like you leading the pack. The thread is about the tie in of intellect/advanced learning and pool ability, neither of which you possess... why should I expect you to respond intelligently?!

Tap Tap Tap.

Well said DM.

Thanks,

Jon

 

[ramdadingdong]

Tap Tap Tap.

Well said DM.

Thanks,

Jon

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Junior, down boy, easy, be cool, fast and loose like your old man here.
Yo daddy. You gonna blow a head gasket man.

 

[LastTwo]

Well in all honesty, the point of my post was to see if I was still on your ignore list. Also, in all honesty, there is nothing more stupid than a man going on a huge rant about why he's not a racist, after saying something many people would consider racist. It's the same thing as a guy explaining why he's not gay after he just had sex with another dude. You are one strange guy. And driver, lay off the insults will ya? You already showed how soft you are when Wayne shut you up. You went off like a madman insulting him, and then he showed you proof about how he is a professional pool player and you kissed his ass. I've snapped off a big tournament before. Stay away from my ass please.

 

[Pelican]

The absolute most important thing - don't bet more than you have on ya if yer playing Tony Soprano

 

[WilleeCue]

As a result of my going into these rooms, I had some of the greatest times and parties afterwards with black people that you could ever imagine. I remember going to a party of about 300 and I was the ONLY white guy there. I never laughed so hard and had a life long memory blast.

I used to run with a friend in Odessa Texas that liked to go to go across the tracks to black bars and play pool for two or three dollars a game. He said that they (the black players) did not think that white "crackers" had enough "cool" to be any good at pool. After getting over my fear a good time was had by all.
Lots of laughter and some damm good pool games but never once had any problems.

I dont think it is being raceist or bigited to think one group of people are less capable than another, that is just human nature.
Look at the rap Southerners get for being red neck.
Ya think pool players in Alabama are any different than players in California?
They are!
But the difference can be fun and enjoyable to experience.

 

[BAZARUS]

Most important thing is time at the table. You can have all the worlds knowledge and IQ of 180 and you won't be a good player unless you put your hours on the table. Those black people may not know to much about anything at all, they don't bother to read or post on forums like this, they may not be able to explain how defflection or throw effect works, but they know how to play, because they practice a lot.
A very known professional snooker player Steven Hendry has been practicing 6 hours a day for most of his careera.

 

[drivermaker]

Well in all honesty, the point of my post was to see if I was still on your ignore list. And driver, lay off the insults will ya? You already showed how soft you are when Wayne shut you up. You went off like a madman insulting him, and then he showed you proof about how he is a professional pool player and you kissed his ass. I've snapped off a big tournament before. Stay away from my ass please.

I took you off the ignore list for good behavior...I guess you can never make a rattlesnake a house pet. You'll go back on the ignore, don't worry.

Wayne and I had a personal conversation, something you and I will NEVER have, whacko. I respect Wayne, and I feel that he respects me, we have no misunderstandings. You, on the other hand are a total POS. Just to refresh your memory, you responded here on MY thread trying to start trouble with your insults. I NEVER respond to your inane horseshit threads. Why don't you do likewise the next time?!

 

[drivermaker]

Most important thing is time at the table. You can have all the worlds knowledge and IQ of 180 and you won't be a good player unless you put your hours on the table. Those black people may not know to much about anything at all, they don't bother to read or post on forums like this, they may not be able to explain how defflection or throw effect works, but they know how to play, because they practice a lot.

And your response warrants a resounding...."NO SHIT"!! That is the truth and what I was trying to bring out when opening this thread. Everybody who can play this game at a high level has knowledge of what's important to excel.
I think trying to take it to a complicated level of WHY things work through science is just wasted time and overkill. All you really have to do is know HOW to get balls into the pocket and move whitey, not WHY with intellectulization to impress others or yourself.

 

[ramdadingdong]

And your response warrants a resounding...."NO SHIT"!! That is the truth and what I was trying to bring out when opening this thread. Everybody who can play this game at a high level has knowledge of what's important to excel.
I think trying to take it to a complicated level of WHY things work through science is just wasted time and overkill. All you really have to do is know HOW to get balls into the pocket and move whitey, not WHY with intellectulization to impress others or yourself.

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Junior, as you and I are not the sharpiest knives in the drawer, that does not prevent us from playing lights out. Some of the dumbiest people alive have been great golfers and pool players, they don't have nothing up there to confuse them. They can never out think them selves, so they learn from imulation and feel, they learn to do, what comes natural for them.

If you read all of this physics bs that is out there, it only leads to total confusion, simple paralysis by anaysis. Let me bottom line this for you all here. If all these post hole diggers, phds, writing all these columns telling you how to play, if there way, was the way, then would not all of them be then running hundreds of balls every time they stepped up to the plate. Would then they all not become world champions and dominate the sport. Who dominates, Efren, lived in a tree in the jungle, never spent a day of his life in school. His brain I am telling you is totally empty. Whos the best, Efren, rest my case on him. What he did do was live and work in his uncles pool room since he was 5, banta means the kid. All he ever did, was play pool, morning, noon and night, 24/7, that is all it takes.

The post hole diggers are all sausages, none of these bums can run 3 friggen balls, they will lead you over the cliff into doom. Follow them you will become them, a bozo with papers who can't run 3 friggen balls, none of them can. This is a feel game, it must be learned by feel, it must be played by feel, Toski. He was one of my teachers also, Jug Mcspadden and Byron taught me that, as did Jimmy Ballard, these people knew, none of them, ever taught any physics in the swing, it was not necessary.
Yo daddy. Give em hell, junior.

 

[TATE]

What are the most important factors that you should know when playing this game? How smart or intelligent do you have to be to excel at the game?

#1 - Shot visualization and execution. If you can't see it, you can't execute it.

#2 - Natural talent. The apptitude you are born with. If you're not born with it, you won't ever be really good.

#3 - Complete skill package. Your game is only as strong as it's weakest link. For example, if you can make all the shots but have a hard time controlling cue ball speed, you'll be limited by that factor.

#4 - Determination and dilligence. As in life, these are far more important than innate intelligence. While it is not for the dense, pool is about training and determination, not brains.

#5 - Self control. the ability to control your play despite emotional outlook.


#6 The confidence to play your game and style. If everyone copied Mosconi, we would have no Efren.

That sums up what I think.

Chris

 

[TATE]

I took you off the ignore list for good behavior...I guess you can never make a rattlesnake a house pet. You'll go back on the ignore, don't worry.

Relax Drivermaker,

Maybe you have a political or ideological difference, but that is what our country is made of.

Last Two is a good guy - I know you would like him if you met him. He's a very respectable patriotic young man who's served our country well in the military, is putting himself through college and plays pool at the "A" level.

He is honest and serious. He is very tolerant of others. He too is entitled to his opinion.

Chris