What's the difference between 860 & 760?

bbaist said:
1) What's the Difference between the 2 cloths?
2) When to use which?
You're going to like this one...LOL...first of all the main difference between 760 and 860 is the thread count. 860 has a higher thread count per square inch than does 760 thereby making it a thicker cloth.

Now, why is that you might ask. Well, the reason is simple. 860 was designed for playing 9 ball, 1 pocket, bank pool, and every other type of game where the speed of the table is noticed in the cue ball and not the object balls..because they're being pocketed. It was designed as a slightly slower cloth to slow down the cue ball since there's more cue ball travel playing these types of games. 760 on the other hand is still the choice cloth for playing 14.1 and 8 ball because the faster speed of the cloth is noticed more in the object balls and not in the cue ball as much. When trying to break out a rack of 14.1 on 860 it's like playing in quicksand, but with 760, soft little hits on the rack break balls out nicely, as well as when playing 8 ball. It doesn't matter what size table your playing on, the speed, or lack thereof is noticed in the playing area based on which game you like playing.

Glen
 
860 vs 760

Glen, that was an excellent post to explain the 860 simonis vs 760 simonis. You answered the question very succinctly I do believe. May I offer one additional view on the difference:

The great bank players of years back when in their prime preferred to play on 760 because more bank shots become makeable with the object ball taking the speed more than the cue ball. Four rail bankers love the 760, like Bugs Rucker, Eddie Taylor, Harry Sexton, Freddy "The Beard" Bentivegna. These great players some now deceased, loved 760 as their first choice and they relished in the head to head combat they would engage in on the green.

I just replaced after nine months of continued play my 860 simonis on my Diamond Nine Foot Pro. When it got down to making the decision I again chose the 860. My reason was only because that is the speed of the tournament tables at the DCC and others.

Next time I think I will go to 760?

Cross-Side-Larry

"Learn from the best, and beat the rest"
 
CrossSideLarry said:
Glen, that was an excellent post to explain the 860 simonis vs 760 simonis. You answered the question very succinctly I do believe. May I offer one additional view on the difference:

The great bank players of years back when in their prime preferred to play on 760 because more bank shots become makeable with the object ball taking the speed more than the cue ball. Four rail bankers love the 760, like Bugs Rucker, Eddie Taylor, Harry Sexton, Freddy "The Beard" Bentivegna. These great players some now deceased, loved 760 as their first choice and they relished in the head to head combat they would engage in on the green.

I just replaced after nine months of continued play my 860 simonis on my Diamond Nine Foot Pro. When it got down to making the decision I again chose the 860. My reason was only because that is the speed of the tournament tables at the DCC and others.

Next time I think I will go to 760?

Cross-Side-Larry

"Learn from the best, and beat the rest"

Thank you for your reply. The only reason I threw in bank pool on the 860 was because of the up coming DCC, but yes, bank pool is better played on 760 because of the distance of the travel of the object balls on some banks.

Glen
 
I think both explaination is correct. I used both, and on my pool hall in Bali i used 760 and in MHO the 760 equalized the speed on humid area compared to dry area like california.
 
oldroller said:
Is there any noticable difference in how the two wear?
In general, the 860 lasts a little longer, but that's really decided by the the customers playing, and how often the cloth is kept clean.
 
realkingcobra said:
You're going to like this one...LOL...first of all the main difference between 760 and 860 is the thread count. 860 has a higher thread count per square inch than does 760 thereby making it a thicker cloth.

Now, why is that you might ask. Well, the reason is simple. 860 was designed for playing 9 ball, 1 pocket, bank pool, and every other type of game where the speed of the table is noticed in the cue ball and not the object balls..because they're being pocketed. It was designed as a slightly slower cloth to slow down the cue ball since there's more cue ball travel playing these types of games. 760 on the other hand is still the choice cloth for playing 14.1 and 8 ball because the faster speed of the cloth is noticed more in the object balls and not in the cue ball as much. When trying to break out a rack of 14.1 on 860 it's like playing in quicksand, but with 760, soft little hits on the rack break balls out nicely, as well as when playing 8 ball. It doesn't matter what size table your playing on, the speed, or lack thereof is noticed in the playing area based on which game you like playing.

Glen

Well the thread count might be due to the fact that 860 is
90% WOOL 10% NYLON
and 760 is
70% WOOL 30% NYLON

no-sho
 
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