Whats your definition of a ERO (Eightball Run Out)

Playing 8 ball an ERO is in the first inning and all ofthe balls are on the table at the beginning of your turn. So either break and run or opponents breaks dry and then you run out. If you make an opponents ball while performing an ERO it is still an ERO. Thus you can have a score of 10-1 or 10-2 whatever and still have an ERO it does not have to be a 10-0 which is something different. They track zip matches in the valley rule book, the 50-zip club is full of prime players. I have shot many 50's but never a 50-zip.
 
So is there a clear written definition of this? I always figured my league was on the same page when it came to this but after reading this thread and asking around, quite a few people in my league think of the run differently. I'd like to be able to print out a clear definition from a governing body, or is it just a league to league rule? Thanks
 
The definitions here apply to BCA & VNEA leagues for sure.
Your 1st trip to the table in a game. All 15 balls on the table. Run out = ERO.
 
My 2 cents.

"Break and run": a legal break, followed by each ball pocketed with either obvious, or announced intention, followed by the 8, all in a single turn at the table.

"Table run": opponent breaks, and after missing, they forfeit the table to you, where you proceed to pocket every one of your balls, including the 8 at the end.

Last night played some doubles 8 ball. They broke dry, my partner missed, they missed, and I "ran-out". Table was "open" all 15 balls on. But to me this would NOT COUNT as a table run. (it was our 2nd chance on the green)
 
The definitions here apply to BCA & VNEA leagues for sure.
Your 1st trip to the table in a game. All 15 balls on the table. Run out = ERO.

This is the definition of 'ERO' from VNEA, who coined the phrase. Please let this thread die with the answer.

-s
 
Break and Run I break, make a ball, and run out. your opponent get pissed because he didn't get to shoot.

run out your opponent breaks and doesn't make a ball, I run out. not as cool as a break and run, but still nice.

*note I don't play in leagues ;)
 
I've played in many leagues and I think it's very funny that people will only give people a Run Out if they ran the table with all 15 balls on the table, or even worse just 6 of their suit. This is a problem and here is why, what if I break and make 1 solid and 1 stripe and also scratch. My opponent can't come in and get a Run Out? Or if I break and make 2 solids, but choose to run out the stripes, is that a run out?

There is always someone that doesn't know the rules and marks Run Outs when they shouldn't or vice versa.

In my league I made a very simple rule many years ago.

"Anytime you step to the table and the table is OPEN, meaning you can select Solids or Stripes, and you run all of your set of balls and the 8-ball in one turn, you get a RO or Run Out."

This prevents so many arguments and questions.

I even played in a league once were I broke and made a solid, I choose solids and ran the rack out, during the run I purposely made one of his stripes as well to open up a pocket for the 8-ball. (I made my ball and caromed into his ball so it was a legal shot) After I high-fived my teammates I was told it wasn't a Run Out because there were only 6 stripes on the table. WOW!
 
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