Wheeler Custom Cue -- "SCAM ALERT"

Addicted2CuesRU

Biff Lowman
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http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEELER-CUSTOM-CUE_W0QQitemZ7180964534QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay, 1 day auction... The guy is military home on leave (playing sympathy card)... He says he reserves the right to pull auction (or have ebay pull it for him whichever comes first)...

Retail $2800 cue supposedly with no reserve going for $800 right now... Ok that happens... Gosh, I guess this poor military guy is really hard up for cash...LOL :D

He has 23 bidders... I hope they check out AZ forum...
 
Addicted2CuesRU said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEELER-CUSTOM-CUE_W0QQitemZ7180964534QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay, 1 day auction... The guy is military home on leave (playing sympathy card)... He says he reserves the right to pull auction (or have ebay pull it for him whichever comes first)...

Retail $2800 cue supposedly with no reserve going for $800 right now... Ok that happens... Gosh, I guess this poor military guy is really hard up for cash...LOL :D

He has 23 bidders... I hope they check out AZ forum...


I guess I'm missing something here! What is it that makes it so clear to you that this is a scam?

just more hot air!


Sherm
 
Wonder why his pics won't load? Hmmm...not sure on this one guys.

Shorty
 
cuesmith said:
I guess I'm missing something here! What is it that makes it so clear to you that this is a scam?

just more hot air!


Sherm
You like that "just more hot air" comment... can you come up with something new when you criticize my various posts... Maybe its not a scam... go ahead take yer chances...
 
Addicted2CuesRU,

"Just more hot air" is Cuesmith's sig tag...it is not a comment directed at you...
 
Here is the last item the seller sold... item location Martin Michigan 5/2005

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33045&item=7319387477

New Item for sale... UPSTATE NY (kinda general)

So this "Military guy" sold an item in Michigan in may... went overseas and then came back to Upstate NY to sell his $3,000 pool cue for $900...

1 day auction is suspicious due to the fact ebay might not get a report quick enough to pull...

The timing of the auction... ends early day after labor day... hmmm Labor day no ebay... 1 day auction ending before ebay people wake up from hangovers...

OK, I know ebay is around the clock prob, but suckers bidding on the auction may be a little groggy and may not notice the signals of a scam early in the AM after Labor Day...

I could be wrong, but this looks like a hijacked seller top end pool cue for sale scam...

Bid at your own peril...
 
Scam ??

If he is home on emergency leave how has he sold 2 guitars, and other items each month since february, It is strange if you look at the feedbacks of buyers and sellers.

I have been watching this, but also am not comfortable, could be OK though!!
 
Worminator said:
Addicted2CuesRU,

"Just more hot air" is Cuesmith's sig tag...it is not a comment directed at you...
yea I sorta figured that out after... Thanx tho..

Usually they are somehow different from the reg text in note... and I was kinda posting all over this site.

My new ScreenName should be:

Addicted2AZForums
 
Wheeler Auction

I Won The Wheeler Auction. I Have Dealt With This Seller Before. So As Long As It Is Not User Id Theft The Auction Was Straight Up. I'll Keep Everyone Posted.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Won The Wheeler Auction. I Have Dealt With This Seller Before. So As Long As It Is Not User Id Theft The Auction Was Straight Up. I'll Keep Everyone Posted.
Seems to me you got a hell of a deal on this one. WTG
 
Guru said:
Seems to me you got a hell of a deal on this one. WTG


That selling price could have been influenced by this thread. I think if I was the legitimate seller, I'd be a bit miffed! lol


just more hot air!

Sherm
 
cuesmith said:
That selling price could have been influenced by this thread. I think if I was the legitimate seller, I'd be a bit miffed! lol


just more hot air!

Sherm
Thats what happens when all the know it all's chime in and they throw out bad info with out even knowing crap about a seller,rk pony has been selling like this for along time. This whole site is a bunch of hot air,its worse than ebay in my opion,atleast ebay has some accountability!
 
Know Who You Talk About Before You Do It

Addicted2CuesRU said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/WHEELER-CUSTOM-CUE_W0QQitemZ7180964534QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay, 1 day auction... The guy is military home on leave (playing sympathy card)... He says he reserves the right to pull auction (or have ebay pull it for him whichever comes first)...

Retail $2800 cue supposedly with no reserve going for $800 right now... Ok that happens... Gosh, I guess this poor military guy is really hard up for cash...LOL :D

He has 23 bidders... I hope they check out AZ forum...

I DON'T KNOW YOU, AND YOU DON'T KNOW ME., BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE. UNLESS YOU AREN'T SURE OF SOMETHING DON'T SAY ANYTHING. THE GUYS NAME IS RANDAL KEECH, I HAVE DEALT WITH HIM EVEN BEFORE THIS. HE WAS STRAIGHT UP WITH ME DURING BOTH TRANSACTIONS. I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THE FACTS SO YOU COULD REALIZE HOW OFF BASE YOU WERE HERE.

MR. KEECH, IS ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY SERVING OUR COUNTRY OVERSEAS. HE HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOMETIME NOW. HE WAS GIVEN LEAVE TO COME HOME TO BE WITH HIS MOTHER FOR A FEW DAYS, WHO WAS DIAGNOSED WITH TERMINAL CANCER. (I BET YOU FEEL LIKE A DICK NOW)

I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE TRYING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM BUT, DON'T ATTACK SOMEONE UNTIL YOU ARE CERTAIN. YOU MADE THE SITUATION WORSE BY MAKING THE COMMENT , "I GUESS THIS POOR MILITARY GUY IS JUST HARD UP FOR CASH" BECAUSE IN THIS SITUATION HE REALLY DID. I ACTUALLY FEEL BAD FOR HIM BECAUSE I GOT THE CUE SO CHEAP, AND I THINK YOU'RE THREAD IS WHAT KEPT THE PRICE DOWN. THE CUE WORLD IS VERY SMALL. MORE PEOPLE READ THIS THAN YOU THINK. I WAS READING POSTS FOR ALONG TIME BEFORE I EVER POSTED ANYTHING.

I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW ALL THIS, SO NEXT TIME YOU'LL THINK, OR DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TYPE. THIS ISN'T PERSONAL, BUT WHAT YOU DID WASN'T FAIR AND I NEEDED EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT RANDAL IS A STRAIGHT UP PERSON, WHO IN FACT IS DOWN ON HIS LUCK RIGHT NOW.
 
People Hijack profiles on ebay so the seller (who the id belongs to) isnt the scammer usually... If I was wrong I'm sorry, but this seemed shady on many levels...

If you feel bad for the guy, let him relist it or throw him some extra cash... dont make me feel bad for calling attention to what seemed like a shady auction...

I will never post a scam alert again... Let you guys take yer chances
 
Addicted2CuesRU said:
People Hijack profiles on ebay so the seller (who the id belongs to) isnt the scammer usually... If I was wrong I'm sorry, but this seemed shady on many levels...

If you feel bad for the guy, let him relist it or throw him some extra cash... dont make me feel bad for calling attention to what seemed like a shady auction...

I will never post a scam alert again... Let you guys take yer chances

I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE DOING. MY POINT WAS, TO DO MORE RESEARCH, AND KNOW FOR SURE BEFORE YOU BASH AN HONEST, AND IN THIS CASE, HARD WORKING SELLER.

I'VE CONSIDERED SENDING HIMSOME EXTRA CASH IF I SELL THE CUE AT A PROFIT. I WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN I GET THERE.

I NEEDED TO CLEAR THIS UP, SO IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE AFRAID TO DEAL WITH RANDAL, HE IS A GOOD GUY.
 
I think the best idea would be; instead of having a thread titled "SCAM", just start a thread asking people if they have dealt with, or have any information on the seller.

FWIW, HTH

Jon
 
Addicted2CuesRU said:
People Hijack profiles on ebay so the seller (who the id belongs to) isnt the scammer usually... If I was wrong I'm sorry, but this seemed shady on many levels...

If you feel bad for the guy, let him relist it or throw him some extra cash... dont make me feel bad for calling attention to what seemed like a shady auction...

I will never post a scam alert again... Let you guys take yer chances

I'm sure you meant well, but you really need something more concrete before you throw around the word "scam". Expressing your concerns and possibly asking if anyone else had any dealings or knowlege of the seller would have been more appropriate before any accusations were made.


just more hot air!

Sherm
 
??

cuesmith said:
I'm sure you meant well, but you really need something more concrete before you throw around the word "scam". Expressing your concerns and possibly asking if anyone else had any dealings or knowlege of the seller would have been more appropriate before any accusations were made.


just more hot air!

Sherm


yeah, I agree. a few words cost this guy hundreds of dollars. if this happened to the guy who yelled "scam", how pissed would he be??

you screw up and then tell marcus to throw him a few hundred his way cause you opened your mouth? unreal. put some blame on yourself. at least you could tell the guy "sorry".

great idea to ask if there is a scam going on, and ask if someone has dealt with someone in the past. lets all HELP each other out.

chris
 
I Got It

I Just Posted This Cue In The Gallery. The Work Is Flawless, And The Deal Went As Smooth As Possible.

P.s. This Cue Could Go To A New Home For The Right Offer. Nice Cue, It Just Doesn't Fit My Collection. Just Thought I'd Try One Of His Cues, I Had Heard Good Things. The Positive Things I Heard About Mike Were All Accurate.
 
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