When to take a safety

slach

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I'm trying to learn straight pool. Something I've been struggling with is when to take a safety. I'm realizing that during the heat of a game I'm selling out way too often and it costs me big runs for the other guy. My heart's screaming that I can make that shot and my brain whispers, sure I can make it - about once out of five. How do you decide when to take that safety and when to go for it?

Steve
 
I think we all come across shots we know we can make. However, as you said, when you miss there may be an extremly stiff penalty. This being said, when i feel like I am not in stroke well or have nerves going I will duck on shots as easy as a long straight corner to corner shot.

The key, imo, is to only duck when the saftey you are contimplating has to power to leave you in a strong possition and greatly limits the return shot from your opposition. Force the sell out from him and you are back to shots you should be taking.

That said, if I am not 90% sure I can make the shot and get shape I will try to find a strong saftey. If I can't find one I take my time and make sure I am confident with my next move before I make it.

Hope this helps.
Jallan
 
I think in short, while percentages do come into play, its time to take a safety when you DON'T know exactly whats going to happen. Pocketing the ball, getting perfect shape on the next ball that you know you are playing next, exactly what your pattern is, if you are not sure of those things when you are over the shot then its time for a safety.
 
slach said:
I'm trying to learn straight pool. Something I've been struggling with is when to take a safety. I'm realizing that during the heat of a game I'm selling out way too often and it costs me big runs for the other guy. My heart's screaming that I can make that shot and my brain whispers, sure I can make it - about once out of five. How do you decide when to take that safety and when to go for it?

Steve

Listen to your head.

It really depends on how your playing and of course your skill level. You have to make decisions based on your comfortability at that point in time.

If your shot making is off, perhaps you should be more defense oriented. Whenever I am playing badly I'll take very few chances and only look to run 10 balls at a time, unless the position is still favourable.

Similarily in snooker, some days I'll take on the table length shots, other days I refuse them and play safe waiting for an easier opportunity.

I think a lot of people try to play every game as though they are at their best, which can cause a lot of loses.
 
slach said:
I'm trying to learn straight pool. Something I've been struggling with is when to take a safety. I'm realizing that during the heat of a game I'm selling out way too often and it costs me big runs for the other guy. My heart's screaming that I can make that shot and my brain whispers, sure I can make it - about once out of five. How do you decide when to take that safety and when to go for it?

Steve

Steve: Last night after our Red Shoes League, I was talking to Bobby Hunter a little. I told him a bit about the Harriman/Schmidt match, which I had scored down at Derby. John only had 1 miss, yet lost the game. Danny had 2 misses but John wasn't able to capitalize as well.

Bobby just shook his head and said back when he was playing good straight pool, his goal was to never miss. If he couldn't make the shot, he'd play a safe. Never leave the table on a miss. He said if I missed, there was a good chance I was going to lose the game.

At his level, I can see it. At our level, it is something to aspire to.
 
Take the safe when you feel that you don't have anything offensive or if the offensive shot seems a bit too much for you. Playing safe in straight pool is no different than playing safe in any other game. Do it when you feel you need to. No reason to sell out a game winging on a shot.
MULLY
 
dmgwalsh said:
Steve: Last night after our Red Shoes League, I was talking to Bobby Hunter a little. I told him a bit about the Harriman/Schmidt match, which I had scored down at Derby. John only had 1 miss, yet lost the game. Danny had 2 misses but John wasn't able to capitalize as well.

Bobby just shook his head and said back when he was playing good straight pool, his goal was to never miss. If he couldn't make the shot, he'd play a safe. Never leave the table on a miss. He said if I missed, there was a good chance I was going to lose the game.

At his level, I can see it. At our level, it is something to aspire to.

Yo Dennis. I think Bobby's waxing a bit nostalgic here. I do believe that his goal was to never miss, but there are plenty of misses in straight pool. Danny and John's match was a good one apparently - usually there will be a few more misses (not a lot), even at the high levels. One only has to look at the recent world straight pool tournaments to see evidence of this - from what I hear, the last couple matches in both years were very, very sloppy. To say nothing of the matches in the round robins.

I would guess that in a typical race to 150, on reasonably tight equipment, there might be 3 misses per pro-caliber player. Depending on how you look at it, that's either a lot or a little.

I take issue with Bobby's statement on two counts:

1) It assumes there's a place to play safe. What if you just get awkward, with a fairly open table? You have like a 70% shot and no legitimate safe.

2) It assumes you'll always win the safe battle. Depending on your opponent, you should be willing to accept varying levels of shot difficulty before playing safe. Against someone like Allen Hopkins, I'd rather take a jump shot that originates on an adjacent table than get into a safe battle with him.

My feeling is that if you are afraid to miss even a single shot, you'll play too tight. You'll feel the nerves in your arms. That would make it pretty tough to play perfect pool.

I mean, who am I to argue with Bobby - he's a world champion. So I guess I'll just assume that he didn't mean his statement to be taken literally, that sometimes you just have to go for it because the situation demands it. The thing about pro players is that most of the time they let themselves take that medium-difficulty tough shot, they make it.

Just my thoughts,
Steve
 
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