which finish you like?

Adonisy

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hello , I found many finishs which cue maker use

which one do you like ?

(1)Epoxy only
(2)Epoxy + Cyanoacrylate (super glue)
(3)Exoxy + Dupont
(4)Epoxy + Cyanoacrylate (super glue) + Dupont
(5)Water Borne finish
(6)wood primer paint + Dupont
(7).... others...

I use (2) , seems like good...
and I try (3) , I found that not match....
 
Adonisy said:
hello , I found many finishs which cue maker use

which one do you like ?

(1)Epoxy only
(2)Epoxy + Cyanoacrylate (super glue)
(3)Exoxy + Dupont
(4)Epoxy + Cyanoacrylate (super glue) + Dupont
(5)Water Borne finish
(6)wood primer paint + Dupont
(7).... others...

I use (2) , seems like good...
and I try (3) , I found that not match....

I use Dupont Chromaclear only...JER
 
now I use Dupont standox...
everything is ok...

:D
 

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I use a base coat of epoxy, and then put 6 coats of PPG 3000. Sets up fast and hard, and buffs out very deep and shinny. If you can put the cues in a hot box you can handle and start sanding then in about an hour.
Chris
 
I've tried 3 of these. I usually seal with superglue (Cyanoacrylate? sp?) then I either finish the cue out with many many coats of superglue, or I will use Chromaclear or the water borne stuff.

I can get the best shiny deep gloss results with Chromaclear, however I can get real close using superglue. The water borne stuff is just as shiny when buffed out, but I have found it will stay kind of "soft" for a month or so before it will dry to full hardness. Thats my experience anyway, I may be doing something wrong (very possible) or may just be too dumb to notice the for sure differences. :)

Jeff
J. Alan Cues
 
BeornLS said:
I've tried 3 of these. I usually seal with superglue (Cyanoacrylate? sp?) then I either finish the cue out with many many coats of superglue, or I will use Chromaclear or the water borne stuff.

I can get the best shiny deep gloss results with Chromaclear, however I can get real close using superglue. The water borne stuff is just as shiny when buffed out, but I have found it will stay kind of "soft" for a month or so before it will dry to full hardness. Thats my experience anyway, I may be doing something wrong (very possible) or may just be too dumb to notice the for sure differences. :)

Jeff
J. Alan Cues

With all do respect, Why would you ever want super glue or 5 minute epoxy on something as important as the finish.
 
Michael Webb said:
With all do respect, Why would you ever want super glue or 5 minute epoxy on something as important as the finish.

Well, good question ....one that I'm probably not brite enough to answer :) Basically the CA finish is what I started out with. I still use it sometimes for refinishing shaft collars, etc. I honestly think (my first mistake) that if someone took the time and patience in buffing, etc, that you can get a very nice finish with CA (superglue, etc). Reason I used it to begin with, was that I knew nothing of the automotive clearcoats or how to use them etc, and I also knew nothing of the waterborne stuff or how to use it.

Anyway, I do know the CA finish is pretty dang tough, readily available to buy, and will the fumes will knock you on your butt if your not in a well ventilated area (ditto clearcoat).

Now that I'm gonna start making some tomato stakes again, I will probably rig up a spray booth and use Chromaclear if I can keep from blowing myself or get a cue done far enough to where it actually is ready for a finish.

If you look at the group cue picture on my teeny website, the top two cues have a CA finish, the third one down is clearcoat, and the bottom is the waterborne. Here is a link: www.jalancues.com you may also look at the 3rd blue book, page 33, same grouping but close up of the buttsleaves.

Volumes can be written on the arts of finishing wood, it's amazing how a well applied finish can bring out the beauty and protect a fine piece of wood. Not only in cues of course, but in all woodcrafting.
 
Very attractive cues, my issues with CA is, if you bang the cue it usually lifts and the other is, it usually retains moisture and causes the wood to warp.
 
Specifics????

Several posts have referred to "waterborne" finish. Can you provide some brand names and/or web sites?
 
Waterborne finish

Hi Bill,

I got mine from what was Barringer cues, I think they sell under the name of cuecomponents now... www.cuecomponents.com

I call it "waterborne" but I'm not sure if thats the correct terminology, I do know it was water based and could be thinned with distilled water...so. Much less easier to work with, etc. and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, joking...

I think Chris Hightower sells a similar item as well, but I've never tried his. I sprayed mine on with a small car detail sprayer / compressor setup.

Jeff
 
How does it compare?

BeornLS said:
Hi Bill,

I got mine from what was Barringer cues, I think they sell under the name of cuecomponents now... www.cuecomponents.com

I call it "waterborne" but I'm not sure if thats the correct terminology, I do know it was water based and could be thinned with distilled water...so. Much less easier to work with, etc. and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, joking...

I think Chris Hightower sells a similar item as well, but I've never tried his. I sprayed mine on with a small car detail sprayer / compressor setup.

Jeff


Thanks Jeff,

I've seen the stuff your talking about on the Cue Components site. I've thought about trying it, but I wasn't sure if it would be an improvement. I've been using a water base polyurethane myself for the safety and cost reasons. It's easy to apply and buffs out real nice! I'm just not satified with its hardness. How would you rate the Cue Components stuff for hardness, ease of application, etc.
 
BeornLS said:
Hi Bill,

I got mine from what was Barringer cues, I think they sell under the name of cuecomponents now... www.cuecomponents.com

I call it "waterborne" but I'm not sure if thats the correct terminology, I do know it was water based and could be thinned with distilled water...so. Much less easier to work with, etc. and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, and I didn't have to worry about it effecting my brain, joking...

I think Chris Hightower sells a similar item as well, but I've never tried his. I sprayed mine on with a small car detail sprayer / compressor setup.

Jeff

I have found that if it's not illegal, immoral or fattening then it's not worth having!

Dick
 
I don't know if It would be any good for cues, but when I use to paint custom homes, there was a waterborne that worked good on cabinets and a HVLP that was a really hard finish as far as waterbornes go anyway. Sherwin Williams brand, but don't remember the name of it. I have also ran accross another brand online years back that they use on gym floors, but never tried it out personally, and I believe it only came in industrial/commercial quanities.

On the CA, to the best of My knowledge you have to be carefull not to get it too thick, or It will chip out. I have seen this on many customs, especially around the butt sleeve, so might be suprised how many makers use or have used It at one time. I won't mention names though, but I have used it and still like to use it for touchup. I use it in many ways now, as I have found alot of little tricks in the repair side that It's good for. For finishing a primer of some sort May help the chipping issue, but I have'nt went that route yet.
For finishing there are IMO better ways to use it, but It requires other products being used in conjuction with it.
To sum it up you can get a really nice finish with it, but not My preferred method, and not something I plan to stick with, but when in a pinch it can get you by I suppose.

Greg
 
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