White Diamond tips
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I have a customer who bought two on line. They are a pain to install since they're VERY hard -- very difficult to trim to size. However, they do hold their shape and don't mushroom. The guy called me after about a month cuz the tip split on him about 1-2mm above the glue line. I installed the second for him. No feedback yet on this second tip.
Troy
Troy
lacey6783 said:
I have. They break about as hard as a phenolic but with more control.
The 1st one I used kept popping off so what I did take a tip pik and groom the backside of the tip and the blunt end of the ferrule. The holes are maybe .01" deep is all but they give the glue someplace to seep and sort of nail it together.
Hangs on great now and breaks well.
LWW
The 1st one I used kept popping off so what I did take a tip pik and groom the backside of the tip and the blunt end of the ferrule. The holes are maybe .01" deep is all but they give the glue someplace to seep and sort of nail it together.
Hangs on great now and breaks well.
LWW
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lacey6783 said:
I have had one on my Schuler Jump/Break Cue for about a year now. No problems with shaping it. I use a Willard Classic Shaper. I have had no problems with the tip splitting or coming off.
It gives good control and has eliminated any miscues that I used to have with a phenolic. It breaks nearly as hard as the phenolic.
lacey6783 said:
You have to be sure you have a flat ferrule and the back of the tip is flat. If there are any gaps under the edge of the tip, when you hit on the gap it can pop off. They don't have any give like the leather tips do. Done right they won't come off.
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Troy said:
You are right but, phenolic tips though seem to pop off a little more then a leather tip and not being perfectly flat can be the problem. A lot of guys sand the back of a leather tip using a piece of sand paper on a flat surface . This works pretty good to roughen up the back of a piece of leather and even if not perfect it will probably not pop off. With tips that are as hard as a phenolic type tips, they may not get it as flat as they think or may even curve it a little. Also some of those ferrule sanding devices they sell in the billiard supplies that you turn with a handle never make a flat surface. I should add, I replace leather tips and often find chalk dust under the tip and glue gaps. The tip didn't fall off and the repair guy may think he did a good job but he didn't. Tips like phenolic tips expose the problem quickly and the guy who put it on may say, "Not my fault, I never have tips fall off it must be the tip", but he may be wrong, it may be his methods a little. Those very hard tips pose a little more of a challenge. If all things fail it is most likely the ferrule. The hard hit of the phenolic type tips can break the glue bond on some ferrules that are made of materials that are a little harder to glue to , even though leather tips stay on. Although it is usually cheap import cue that have the funky ferrules, I have had problems with the predator ferrules as well. They seem to not want to keep on phenolic type tips.
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