Who invented the jump/break cue?
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Poor Puckdaddy. No one will respond to his post. Perhaps if you spell check next time Puckster.....
My guess is it was a cuemaker and not a production co.
My guess is it was a cuemaker and not a production co.
The first jump break cues I saw were made by Joe Porper and Rich Howard (Mace). They were regular cues with an extra joint.puckdaddy said:
I developed the first Jump Break Cue with a 14 MM Laminated Shaft with a short ferrule and a hard tip. It was called the Terminator Triple Threat (http://www.arnotq.com/pages/192/192.html).
I made my own back in the late 80's. I had heard about Jump Cues, but could not find any around. So i had a old Sneaky Pete that i used to keep in my car, the shaft was a little out and i just used it for a break stick sometimes. I got out the trusty old hacksaw and chopped it off about
8 or 9 inches from the pin. I am Kinda crappy at stuff like this, so the cut was on a bit of an angle
. So i took the rubber bumper and screwed it on
and had myself a Jump Cue. It still works great to this day, i keep it the car with my Car Cue. I just made some great "Dart Style" jumps with it yesterday.
I used to keep it in my Jay Flowers case, so i just replaced it with this.
8 or 9 inches from the pin. I am Kinda crappy at stuff like this, so the cut was on a bit of an angle
. So i took the rubber bumper and screwed it onand had myself a Jump Cue. It still works great to this day, i keep it the car with my Car Cue. I just made some great "Dart Style" jumps with it yesterday.
I used to keep it in my Jay Flowers case, so i just replaced it with this.
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LOL, here is a pic of the one i converted. You can see the crappy cut i made. LOL
puckdaddy said:
Jay Flowers built and was the first selling J/B cues I know of with a design for that specific purpose. He brought the design to Huebler who built them for him and he sold quite a few. This was before Rick Howard, who probably got the idea from Jay since he was around Jay at the time Truth be told though, there were cues built with a second joint for using when a wall was in the way long before there even was a jump shot being used. There is even a patent on file for the second joint cue. The suggestion for the J/B may have been taken from there so no one can really claim it. Thing is, the idea is simple and may have been thought of by many people around the same time independent of each other but Jay's were the first on the market.
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The earliest jump/break cue I remember seeing was the one that Meucci made for a relatively short time back in early to mid 1990 to 1991. I believe that I've only seen six of them during the time I've been playing pool. Jim Rempe & David Howard both had one, I think both Tony Ellin & Dennis Hatch had one, & I've only seen one come up for sale on Ebay. I still have mine though I no longer use it.
I have been told in the past that Meucci made around 115 of the jump/break cues. I don't know if that's accurate as I don't think any of them were numbered if the one I have is any indication.
EDIT: The first jump cues I remember seeing started coming around in 1988. Meucci produced a small butt you could screw into a playing cue shaft. I believe Sammy Jones is credited with inventing the jumper.
I still remember seeing Sammy showcasing the jumper on a trick shot tape that Meucci produced. He said, "When you've got the touch, you don't need much."
I have been told in the past that Meucci made around 115 of the jump/break cues. I don't know if that's accurate as I don't think any of them were numbered if the one I have is any indication.
EDIT: The first jump cues I remember seeing started coming around in 1988. Meucci produced a small butt you could screw into a playing cue shaft. I believe Sammy Jones is credited with inventing the jumper.
I still remember seeing Sammy showcasing the jumper on a trick shot tape that Meucci produced. He said, "When you've got the touch, you don't need much."
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Funny how Jumping became part of 9-Ball. I remember learning to Jump back in 1976 from "WD" Bill Stigall in Tampa. He showed me some trick shots to perform during my very first tournament i put on. Little did i know
it would get so big. Then around 1987-88 I was playing a race to 7 with
Bonnie Hoffman and I Hooked her and low & behold she jumped a full ball
and made a good hit. She played with a very lightweight Huebler. After that is when i took the hacksaw to my sneaky pete and made the butt small enough to fit in the zipper pocket of my Jay Flowers case.
Now i see allot of the cases have long zipper pockets to fit the butt end.
"CH"
it would get so big. Then around 1987-88 I was playing a race to 7 with
Bonnie Hoffman and I Hooked her
and low & behold she jumped a full balland made a good hit. She played with a very lightweight Huebler. After that is when i took the hacksaw to my sneaky pete and made the butt small enough to fit in the zipper pocket of my Jay Flowers case.
Now i see allot of the cases have long zipper pockets to fit the butt end.
"CH"
I forgot to mention one thing about the Meucci jump/break cues. The first models I remember seeing in 1990 had ferrules that were black in color. It's my understanding that later on in the production run the ferrules were white.
first i remember seeing was made by Rick Howard. he may not have invented it but he did make b/j cues that play like regular cues. i had a 6 point with ivory diamonds in the butt
A dearly missed tournament director (and fine player) Red Willis...aka...Fountain Inn Red from SC had one of the VERY first made. It was an early Meucci that actually had a J/B joint above the wrap. Sammy "Jumpy" Jones had some real early Meucci's J/B's too. I bet he still has at least one. He used to say..."I use this little cue here, and then I play up here in the Jones zone" as he waved his hand a foot over the table holding a Meucci forearm. LOL!!! He is a damn fine jump artist.
Varney Cues said:
That sounds like the one I still have in my possession. It was hard to get one when they came out as they weren't ever featured in a Meucci catalog or any other related publication as I recall. As I said earlier, I've only seen a scant few. There was a problem with the black ferrule thus the switch to the white ferrule. They sold for around $199.00 if memory serves.
I would post photos of the cue I have. However, the computer says they're too big & I don't know how to shrink them to fit.
EDIT: The cue is not for sale. Thanks for the inquiries I have received privately.
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o yes,,,,,,,,,iremember seeing a junp cue at billiardcue,com that Gus Szamboti made. prob not the first, but earlier than a lot
I managed to figure out how to get the pictures of my old Meucci break/jump cue trimmed down. The pictures are of the cue disassembled in two & three pieces. There is a joint protector on the butt & the original Meucci ferrule had to be replaced as it had cracked. It weighs 18 ounces.
The cue is still not for sale. Thank you to those who inquired about it privately.
The cue is still not for sale. Thank you to those who inquired about it privately.
Voodoo Daddy
One Pocket 101
puckdaddy said:
I can tell you Jay Flowers was the man in Florida to sell the B/J made by Huebler in the early-mid 80's, I bought a few from him. I know Pat Fleming was the first guy to use one inna giant 14.1 tournament. I also know 16+ yrs ago Harry Richards perfected the B/J, Rick Howard made the prettiest B/J and Huebler/Meucci made tons of them. I'm not sure of Arnot's claim to be the first with laminated shafts and 14MM tip B/J.
The jump cue itself is a different animal...anyone remember that metal jump cue that looked like a BBQ utensil? Had like a 20MM howitzer tip, HAHAHAHAHA. I know who makes the best jump pole, its Joe Picone in Broward County Florida...he has been at it for decades and without a second thought they are the BEST EVER!!
p.s...notice all the Florida cue guys mentioned? The pool state of the USA.