Shane has won four US Open titles in this decade....and it isn't over yet.
To me, that puts him in the running for player of the decade.
Who will be Player of the Decade?
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Shane has won four US Open titles in this decade....and it isn't over yet.
To me, that puts him in the running for player of the decade.
If we have to choose from the list of players who have won a world title, then our only real choices would be Darren Appleton, Ko Pin Yi or Niels Feijen. Only Darren has been consistent enough to earn the title, he seemed unstoppable until 2015.
I still think SVB is the best choice since he's been consistently in the mix and on top during the entire decade. Pool has a lot of "players of the moment" where someone is unstoppable for 1-3 years, but we have to look past that. I'm a fan of Mika, but I felt like his player of the decade award was given strictly for his couple years of dominance.
Josh is no youngster he's getting close to 40 i think lol
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He turned 36 on August 17th.
That's older than SVB
US Open has the deepest field. Nothing is even close. Add in all the other stuff he has won plus finished high in equals no other than SVB. Could get hit by a bus tomorrow and is a first ballet lock for Hall of Fame. Other than Alex only he would get in for his accomplishments to date and currently under 40.
I want to argue with you, but the ignorance of your post would make it far too easy.
i have to disagree here again! the US open hasnt a deep field like in world champs or china! its half filled with dead US money, you wont find that in the asia events!
as for shane, even when he doesnt win much outside the US, you hardly will find someone as talented and consistent over the last decade as he was (or is)! hard to overlook........
Ahhhh no. Like who? The Middle Eastern Players? Most of the top Americans and Filipinos don't go to the worlds.
Here is the Top 20 Americans by Fargorate:
Shane Van Boening USA821
Mike Dechaine USA795
Justin Bergman USA795
Sky Woodward USA783
Rodney Morris USA780
Earl Strickland USA779
Johnny Archer USA775
Corey Deuel USA774
Dennis Hatch USA772
Oscar Dominguez USA770
Amar Kang USA766
Billy Thorpe USA763
Josh Roberts USA762
Jonathan Pinegar USA762
Manny Chau USA762
Jesse Bowman USA760
Shane McMinn USA760
Larry Nevel USA758
Scott Frost USA752
Jeremy Sossei USA
With the exception of Shane none of them go (Oh and SVB came in Second last two years...not bad) Ever since it started being played in Quatar I don't think Alex of Dennis O go either. The Euro's are strong but not that deep. At about Top 10 the quality falls off. The US Open is the Super Bowl.
I don't disagree the US Open is one of the premier tournaments in pool, however given we are talking about the best player between 2010-2020 that is a long enough period for skill to balance out luck, hence I don't see how SVB can be compared to someone like Darren Appleton who is a multi-discipline World Champion (i.e. it could be argued that in any given World Championships SVB could have had bad luck, but not all over a decade).
I also appreciate its only 2017, so that doesn't mean SVB won't win a WC, but until he does he's not delivered on the global stage (as opposed to domestically) when it matters.
From you thats actually a surprising comment...I would have said you were one of the more astute posters on here, your posts are normally logical and well thought out.
So its disappointing you didn't provide some backup for your argument, rather than trying to dismiss my logic (which is fairly simplisitc...SVB has had multiple chances to win a World Championship, the pinnacle of any sport, however he has failed to deliver, whereas others such as Darren Appleton have won World Championships at multiple pool disciplines).
not at all, just take a look at last years US open draw and count all the 9 1s and 9 2s in the first 2-3 rounds with americans inolved! there are countless....... and we are talking about deepness, not about the top 20-30 who are entering! and yes, the top middle east players are already equal or better than the average US pro!
same for china open, who would you pick in case the unknown chinese no 15 would play the US no 15? for me a no-brainer.......
for the americans, who except SVB would have a chance there? noone is my guess.... and that there are more filipinos in the US open is a fairytale, thats already proven!
and that the euros arent deep, must be a joke, or? we could bring prolly 5 winning teams for mosconi! US open might be the superbowl, but quatar is soccer world championship final....lol
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Yeah, just add up the fargo ratings of all players for each year that fargo has been around, and the highest number gets the titles player of the decade. Does that make any sense?
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Lol, every time I see you post, you are referring to the Fargo Rate of the players. The thread is about who should be named "player of the decade", not who has the highest Fargo Rating, lol.
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Nah, maybe AZB's retard of the decade though.
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Did he not have back to back runner up finishes at the World 9 ball championships? 2nd to Ko, and then 2nd to Ouschan. That is pretty strong I think. Not to mention his record in the World Pool Masters on the world stage. Name a player who has won more major titles in the last 7 years? I am curious to know who has a better record then Shane since 2010?
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Yes, and he came very close to winning 2 World 9 ball championships, right?
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Albin Ouschan won the last W9BC, right? Beat SVB in the finals, right? I do not know how strong his tournament record has been in the last 7 years though (since 2010).
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Would be cool if there were a "strongest up and coming young gun of the decade" award. My pick would be Skyler Woodward for that award. I think he might want it more then any other player too. He really loves the game I think.
Actually, I think Jayson Shaw should win that award (if there were a title and award for something like "strongest up and coming young gun of the decade"). He is still pretty young, and has really kept getting better every year. I hope he wins a W9BC soon. He is an amazing player.
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I am curious, how long has Josh Roberts been a known pro level player? I just recently learned about him (within the last few years).