Who's this guy with Freddy?

Sorry, Fred, but hanisch was correct, in fact, exactly correct

freddy the beard said:
In John Scarne's book, The Complete Guide To Gambling, he determined the odds to this proposition by multiplying the odds to one by .693 for a single event. 5 to 1 times .693 comes out to 3.465 rolls needed to make the prop a break even bet. Using 2 dice you need 24.6 rolls to roll double six.

the Beard
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With all due respect to John Scarne, his ability with cards and dice was legendary, but his mathematical accumen, at least in this case, is suspect. And also with respect to you as one of the most astute gamblers to ever post on this forum, I must tell you, having just reviewed the post by hanisch, that his math is right on target. Having just worked through the calculations myself (Hey, I've taught college level statistics!), I can assure you that the number of rolls for a fair (50/50) bet, is 3.801784 (the limit of the calculator I am using). This answer is the same to the sixth decimal place as the one hanisch provided. If my math isn't persuasive, just recall that Titanic took the other side of the bet! Maybe Scarne was talking about a slightly different bet?
 
BillPorter said:
With all due respect to John Scarne, his ability with cards and dice was legendary, but his mathematical accumen, at least in this case, is suspect. And also with respect to you as one of the most astute gamblers to ever post on this forum, I must tell you, having just reviewed the post by hanisch, that his math is right on target. Having just worked through the calculations myself (Hey, I've taught college level statistics!), I can assure you that the number of rolls for a fair (50/50) bet, is 3.801784 (the limit of the calculator I am using). This answer is the same to the sixth decimal place as the one hanisch provided. If my math isn't persuasive, just recall that Titanic took the other side of the bet! Maybe Scarne was talking about a slightly different bet?
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I've just run through the math myself and find it spot on w/ Bill and Hanisch. I'm no professor but, I enjoy stats and took it in school.
 
A really nice article about Titanic Thompson

joncueist said:
I spoke briefly with this guy at 06 Derby City but did not get his name. We, along with others, were discussing "Titanic Thompson" stories. This man had or was writing a book about him. I was told later that he was from New York (lived on Long Island), loved pool and loved to play one-pocket. This picture was talkn from the 06 One-pocket HOF dinner. I attended and remember seeing him there.
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I ran across this nifty article about Titanic Thompson and thought I'd share it. Ti was at the pro level in golf and horseshoes but was never that good at pool. I would rate his pool playing, at his best, at about the 7-ball below a good shortstop. Anyway, here's the link to the article: http://www.howtobeattheodds.com/SportsDay.html
 
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