Why do I bank better than I kick?
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mnShooter said:
If you put unintentional spin on the cueball, almost all of the spin affects the rebound on a kick shot, but only a small amount gets transferred to an object ball. So, even though spin will affect a bank, the spin affects a kick shot many times more.
Fred
Also, with a lot of banks, the object ball travels a shorter distance to it's destination. With a kick the cueball sometimes has a longer disnace to travel to kick that object ball.
Also, since you are not hitting the rail first on a bank, your bank shot is more accurate since your hitting the object ball directly. Most of the time you know how the balls roll, sometimes you come across rails that act much different.
Plus like fred said. You can play with left, right top, bottom english and still make initial contact with the objet ball nad have a good chance of hitting the bank. With the kick, your english as to be on spot or else the cueball will take a totally different path off the rail.
Also, since you are not hitting the rail first on a bank, your bank shot is more accurate since your hitting the object ball directly. Most of the time you know how the balls roll, sometimes you come across rails that act much different.
Plus like fred said. You can play with left, right top, bottom english and still make initial contact with the objet ball nad have a good chance of hitting the bank. With the kick, your english as to be on spot or else the cueball will take a totally different path off the rail.
I think the main reason people bank better than they kick is because when you bank your primary aiming point is on your object ball, when you kick you still have to hit the object ball in the right spot to get it in the pocket, however your primary aiming point is an imaginary point along the rail for some people or out in space for other people. either way, you don't have a ball in front of you to aim at.
Any spin will affect the anlge of rebound. I was a victim of this. I was not hitting the cue ball where I was aiming. I think this is the problem for most of the misses. Concentrate on hitting the cue ball on the center line and you kicking will improve. I also found that a little above center helps me to get the right angle.
I agree with Fred's thoughts but have another factor as well. Or maybe a
factor.
I have always thought that players know angles into pockets more than away from them. Such as if you hook someone and the OB is hung in the pocket the player rarely misses the ball. Now move the ball somewhere away from the pocket and they have a tougher time. IMO its because our brains
watch the angles going towards pockets way more than not. Most decent players know what are scratch angles and how ball can end up scratching.
I think players that kick well use the "known" angles and adjust. After time it becomes second nature and that player starts seeing that angle without
really thinking about the adjustment.
Thats with kicking to hit balls. I think people forget to practice kicking to
make balls especailly ones close to rails. Grady kicks very well and has some
good systems(thoughts) on kicking.
When watching the pros and especiallly the Pinoys they have little fear of kicking and seem to be able to control the balls better. Could this be from
playing rotation and from watching so much more kicking? Their brains
digest more kicking than most and IMO it would have to sink in.
factor.
I have always thought that players know angles into pockets more than away from them. Such as if you hook someone and the OB is hung in the pocket the player rarely misses the ball. Now move the ball somewhere away from the pocket and they have a tougher time. IMO its because our brains
watch the angles going towards pockets way more than not. Most decent players know what are scratch angles and how ball can end up scratching.
I think players that kick well use the "known" angles and adjust. After time it becomes second nature and that player starts seeing that angle without
really thinking about the adjustment.
Thats with kicking to hit balls. I think people forget to practice kicking to
make balls especailly ones close to rails. Grady kicks very well and has some
good systems(thoughts) on kicking.
When watching the pros and especiallly the Pinoys they have little fear of kicking and seem to be able to control the balls better. Could this be from
playing rotation and from watching so much more kicking? Their brains
digest more kicking than most and IMO it would have to sink in.
also dont forget your speed, just as a softly banked ball runs longer and a hard banked ball tightens the angle, so the same thing happens to your cueball as it hits the rail on its way to the object ball in a kick shot.
i think it has to do with there being a greater margin of error for banks. if you think about it, its the same idea as difference in difficulty between a long shot with a small distance between the object ball and cue ball and a long shot with a large distance between the object ball and cue ball (assuming the object ball isnt too close to a pocket). not to mention spin and hit speed amplifying error more on kicks than banks. of course, there are times when kicks are easier. id say a long kick to a ball in the jaws or on a rail close to a pocket is easier than any long bank.
