With Joshua winning in Vegas, does Fedor's backers still want some?

[InsertCleverNameHere]

The match had 15 games.

- Gorst was successful on 1 of 5 breaks, and he made the 1-ball in the side on the successful break.​

- Filler was successful on 7 of 10 breaks, and he made the 1-ball in the side on 5 of the successful breaks.​

Thank you, sir. The memory is often different than reality.

Clearly more than 0.

But also only 6 of 15 times the 1 was made in the side. Or 40% which in my estimation isn't great considering that's the only ball they were "aiming for" Breaking from the middle gives you AT LEAST 3 predictable balls both balls behind the 1 and the 4 railer that goes fairly often. Absolutely yes it's more predictable when using a template but the same can be said for any other break style as well.

 

[Badpenguin]

What is nonsensical about it? How about presenting your argument instead of just saying it's not accurate?

"Gorst beats you with inevitability" is complete nonsense.

This crap doesn't belong here. Keep it to facebook or X or whatever garbage social media you frequent.

AZB is for training AI, not reading it.

 

[Kris_b1104]

"Gorst beats you with inevitability" is complete nonsense.

This crap doesn't belong here. Keep it to facebook or X or whatever garbage social media you frequent.

AZB is for training AI, not reading it.

Wowww one whole sentence out of the entire post is nonsense, and it's a sentence you made up on your own, with quotation marks, not even included in the post. Good reading comprehension skills. I don't use social media and you can't tell me what I should or shouldn't post. I did it for fun to see what it would say.

 

[Kris_b1104]

and you don't think 3 x china opens, 1 x additional MR major, weighs up whatever difference you feel there is between a 9-ball and an 8-ball world championship? borrowing this list from insidesp.in's post in the harmonic field strength thread:

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these are the most difficult tournaments on record. josh won china open 2017.

that fedor wasn't there some year isn't an argument, he's played several of them, 3-4 of the years that he could travel.

and yes, obviously it's rare and impressive to have a year like FSR or yapp. there's no discussion about that. but i think it's beside the point

Really good points! I agree with you. ChatGPT is often wrong of course, I never said it was perfect. And I'm also not biased, I still think Filler is the better player despite it's "evaluation".

I'm sorry, I don't think two 16-man invitationals are the most difficult tournaments to win. I actually believe Filler wining 3 DCC 9-balls in a row holds way more weight. Why isn't the W9B in this list of toughest tournaments, but it's held with such high prestige? I don't think everything Mike Page comes up with is gold.

 

[skogstokig]

Really good points! I agree with you. ChatGPT is often wrong of course, I never said it was perfect. And I'm also not biased, I still think Filler is the better player despite it's "evaluation".

I'm sorry, I don't think two 16-man invitationals are the most difficult tournaments to win. I actually believe Filler wining 3 DCC 9-balls in a row holds way more weight. Why isn't the W9B in this list of toughest tournaments, but it's held with such high prestige? I don't think everything Mike Page comes up with is gold.

those 16 man invitationals will naturally have a higher fargo because the best players are invited, but i don't count them as majors personally. still high prestige events. check out the thread:

Thread 'A new measure of tournament toughness: Harmonic Field Strength'

Oct 15, 2025

How Strong Was the Field?
Harmonic Field Strength (HFS) as a New Way to Measure Tournament Toughness​

Pool pundits battle about whether the European Open or the World 10-Ball Championship had the stronger field—or which event truly ran deepest in 2025. Or which tournaments should be considered majors.

These debates almost always come down to some version of the same tradeoff:
star power vs. depth — comparing the top few entrants to the overall quality and density of the field.

Panozzo might argue the star-power side this time, pointing out that...

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it's not gospel, fargo is a commercial product, but of course it's valuable and the best we have for comprehensive rating.

DCC 9b is a pro-am, fairly short race event on soft tables. i love DCC, it's top 3 for me in entertainment value, but i don't place it that high - compared to a MR major filler can blaze through the DCC 9-ball year after year.. he won't do that at US open or hanoi open.

 

[Jaden]

and you don't think 3 x china opens, 1 x additional MR major, weighs up whatever difference you feel there is between a 9-ball and an 8-ball world championship? borrowing this list from insidesp.in's post in the harmonic field strength thread:

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these are the most difficult tournaments on record. josh won china open 2017.

that fedor wasn't there some year isn't an argument, he's played several of them, 3-4 of the years that he could travel.

and yes, obviously it's rare and impressive to have a year like FSR or yapp. there's no discussion about that. but i think it's beside the point

Well the 8 ball world championship that he won was while the Vietnam open was going and was missing most of the world's best players, so actually, no it doesn't make up for it. But they're pretty evenly matched. Nineball, Filler is the best right now. All around, it's a toss up between a few players.