WNTTV-dot-com and WST-dot-tv

[JAM]

Well, I have subscribed and have paid WNTTV-dot-com. This morning I am trying to pay WST-dot-tv, as I have already subscribed, to watch snooker.

I have already signed in, but there is no link to pay to watch the BetVictor Welsh Open that is now in progress. Gary Wilson, defending champion, is playing his first match at the time of this writing. Ronnie O'Sullivan plays tomorrow.

I keep getting a different website on WST-dot-tv, and I get this message. I'm afraid to go any further. Who in the heck is "urbanzoofc-dot-com"?

 

[JAM]

First place pays the standard $123,942 (£100,000). I am hoping to watch on the World Snooker Tour's brand-new live stream channel, WST Play, which will allow users to watch the entire season either live or on-demand as well as a host of additional content.

The platform is available in most global territories and replaces the service previously available on Matchroom Live. WST Play will not be available in China, Hong Kong, Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia, Philippines, and Brunei. Does anybody find this odd since snooker is so popular in Asia?


WST Play: https://www.wst.tv/

 

[skogstokig]

Well, I have subscribed and have paid WNTTV-dot-com. This morning I am trying to pay WST-dot-tv, as I have already subscribed, to watch snooker.

I have already signed in, but there is no link to pay to watch the BetVictor Welsh Open that is now in progress. Gary Wilson, defending champion, is playing his first match at the time of this writing. Ronnie O'Sullivan plays tomorrow.

I keep getting a different website on WST-dot-tv, and I get this message. I'm afraid to go any further. Who in the heck is "urbanzoofc-dot-com"?

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i use discovery+ where i'm at. gary averaged 12 seconds per shot last frame to get even, but pooped the pants in this one and smashed his fist on the rail. overall estimation: no chance he repeats the title, even if he beats this indian fella.

 

[skogstokig]

while i wrote that post he ran a 60 break though. avg shot time 10 or 11 sec. entertaining for sure, and that's what all cue sports need - fast play. i still don't think he's a candidate for the title.

 

[JAM]

i use discovery+ where i'm at. gary averaged 12 seconds per shot last frame to get even, but pooped the pants in this one and smashed his fist on the rail. overall estimation: no chance he repeats the title, even if he beats this indian fella.

I do like Gary Wilson. I loved it when he dabbled in pool on the WNT tour. That was fun, him and his father. They were a hoot!

 

[skogstokig]

I do like Gary Wilson. I loved it when he dabbled in pool on the WNT tour. That was fun, him and his father. They were a hoot!

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he just lost to a fat indian e-sporter so very possible he will focus more on pool. when he lost in the masters he talked about quitting altogether

 

[JAM]

he just lost to a fat indian e-sporter so very possible he will focus more on pool. when he lost in the masters he talked about quitting altogether

He quit once before, as I recall, in 2006, and got a 9-to-5 job working on the railcars, as I recall. But he decided to come back to snooker and had a good run. I hope he doesn't quit. If he does, it may be due to expenses. It's expensive to travel the world and not cash.

 

[mjantti]

He quit once before, as I recall, in 2006, and got a 9-to-5 job working on the railcars, as I recall. But he decided to come back to snooker and had a good run. I hope he doesn't quit. If he does, it may be due to expenses. It's expensive to travel the world and not cash.

IIRC he had some mental issues regarding playing snooker. Snooker has to be one of the toughest ways to make a living as only top16 are getting paid enough to make a good living, many very skilled players are barely scraping by.

 

[JAM]

IIRC he had some mental issues regarding playing snooker. Snooker has to be one of the toughest ways to make a living as only top16 are getting paid enough to make a good living, many very skilled players are barely scraping by.

It is true with pro pool players as well, and the payouts are even less for them. I always like seeing Gary. He shares his snooker and pool journey on Facebook and appreciates his fans. He wife is lovely too.

 

[mjantti]

It is true with pro pool players as well, and the payouts are even less for them. I always like seeing Gary. He shares his snooker and pool journey on Facebook and appreciates his fans. He wife is lovely too.

One prime example is Mark King, the retired snooker pro. He played over 30 years with almost 30 years in the top 32 and won one ranking event. Known to be a tough opponent and a fighter. His career earnings were about 1.8M GBP which I will round up to $2.0M. Divided by 32 years as a professional equals just over $60k per year. Minus all expenses travelling and lodging. In one interview he put it in perspective telling that going for almost a year with hardly any prize money at all with a family to support is not easy. I don't want to justify anything but I am not surprised some pro players turn to match fixing for an extra profit.

CueTracker - Career Total Statistics For Mark King - Professional Results - Snooker Results & Statistics Database

Career Total Statistics for Mark King - professional Results - Match results, Frame scores, centuries, prize money, statistics - Snooker Database of Results & Statistics

cuetracker.net

 

[JAM]

One prime example is Mark King, the retired snooker pro. He played over 30 years with almost 30 years in the top 32 and won one ranking event. Known to be a tough opponent and a fighter. His career earnings were about 1.8M GBP which I will round up to $2.0M. Divided by 32 years as a professional equals just over $60k per year. Minus all expenses travelling and lodging. In one interview he put it in perspective telling that going for almost a year with hardly any prize money at all with a family to support is not easy. I don't want to justify anything but I am not surprised some pro players turn to match fixing for an extra profit.

CueTracker - Career Total Statistics For Mark King - Professional Results - Snooker Results & Statistics Database

Career Total Statistics for Mark King - professional Results - Match results, Frame scores, centuries, prize money, statistics - Snooker Database of Results & Statistics

cuetracker.net

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Another thing to consider is family life. Living out of a suitcase and traveling the globe can put a lot of stress on one's lifestyle and stability if married with or without children.

 

[skogstokig]

One prime example is Mark King, the retired snooker pro. He played over 30 years with almost 30 years in the top 32 and won one ranking event. Known to be a tough opponent and a fighter. His career earnings were about 1.8M GBP which I will round up to $2.0M. Divided by 32 years as a professional equals just over $60k per year. Minus all expenses travelling and lodging. In one interview he put it in perspective telling that going for almost a year with hardly any prize money at all with a family to support is not easy. I don't want to justify anything but I am not surprised some pro players turn to match fixing for an extra profit.

CueTracker - Career Total Statistics For Mark King - Professional Results - Snooker Results & Statistics Database

Career Total Statistics for Mark King - professional Results - Match results, Frame scores, centuries, prize money, statistics - Snooker Database of Results & Statistics

cuetracker.net

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have to add in sponsor money, coaching gigs, exhibition gigs, etc..

they say ding jungui is the player who has made most money, and the majority of it isn't prize money. he was the first big chinese player and viewing figures i china have been in the hundreds of millions when he plays. his management have been smart in capitalizing that following obviously.

 

[mjantti]

have to add in sponsor money, coaching gigs, exhibition gigs, etc..

they say ding jungui is the player who has made most money, and the majority of it isn't prize money. he was the first big chinese player and viewing figures i china have been in the hundreds of millions when he plays. his management have been smart in capitalizing that following obviously.

This is exactly why there is such a big gap in earnings between top10 and top32 players. The latter don’t enjoy much of a sponsor money and are not invited to lucrative exhibitions, rather to fill up cancelled top players. China is obviously a different story because what they have is a lot of money if you play your cards right. Ding is probably the wealthiest snooker pro in the circuit. I think it also shows in his performance. Moneywise he and his family are set for life which probably eats his killer fighter instinct on the table. Ding seems to fold mentally and becomes weak if he goes far in a major tournament. To me it looks like he is mostly just playing for just the sake of playing and you don’t win World Champs with that attitude.