Wondering if I should go to Tunica

BarneyCalip

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I have been and played at the Derby but never been to Tunica.
I love to see all the Pro's and Action.
I do miss Louisville though it was the best.

Living in Mountain View Ca. it does cost a pretty penny to fly and stay for 2 weeks.
Would hate to go there and find out lot of the Pro's will not be there due to Bonus Ball?

I have seen Jay's and others comments and they are not happy with Bonus Ball and their conflicting schedule.

Maybe, I should go to Vegas for a weekend watch Bonus Ball and wait for the Derby in January.

Just Wondering.......
 
I have been and played at the Derby but never been to Tunica.
I love to see all the Pro's and Action.
I do miss Louisville though it was the best.

Living in Mountain View Ca. it does cost a pretty penny to fly and stay for 2 weeks.
Would hate to go there and find out lot of the Pro's will not be there due to Bonus Ball?

I have seen Jay's and others comments and they are not happy with Bonus Ball and their conflicting schedule.

Maybe, I should go to Vegas for a weekend watch Bonus Ball and wait for the Derby in January.

Just Wondering.......

The Pro's WILL be in Tunica June 16-20th for the Ultimate 10 Ball Championships minimum. Some will stay for the Southern Classic.
 
Barney, while I have the same concerns that you do, in regards to the schedule conflicts with BB, I can tell you this.....

.......I went last year and had a BLAST!!! Greg Sullivan, Chad, and the crew from Diamond put on a great event, not to mention Accu-Stats with their TV table set-up.

"Toupee Jay" Helfert was front and center on the 10' Diamonds running a fantastic 16-man tourney.

No gambling, due to some casino regulations, but lots of streaming in the Open/Pro area. They kept it professional. There were other mini-tourneys going on in the room on the 10-footers. It was extremely clean. Plenty of room. It was non-smoking. Logistically, it seemed like everything went pretty darn smooth. I know there was a slight issue with people wanting to log on to the SCT website to keep up with match results, but there was a HUGE streaming board of match-ups and table time for the competitors to keep an eye on.

At the entrance to this area, Accu-Stats set up "shop" and had hundreds of DVD's and a few dozen different books for sale. I ended up signing up for the Video-of-the-Month Club while I was there and LOVE it. That's a no-brainer for any pool junkie.

There was a in-house snack bar in the smoking area, just outside the entrance to the Open event. A few steps away from there was an extremely nice cue-maker from Tx (Ron Geyer, I think? I owe him a beer too, for some help he gave me, so I hope I see him again someday)......who was replacing tips, cleaning shafts, general cue maintenance, etc. etc., plus he had a nice supply of pool/cue accessories.

In a small room past that, they had a professional trick-shot competition going, complete with vests and the whole bit.

About 30 feet up the way was the doorway back out to the main casino room. The folks from Diamond were there processing player badges and late sign-ups. Also, at that casino entrance, was a small food court. Quizno's, some stone oven pizza thing (which actually tasted WAY better than it looked) and a Fudrucker's. There's also a Dunkin' Donuts (I think that was the correct chain) in there, but it's deeper in the first floor of the casino.

Upstairs is a Paula Deen buffet, a fancy steakhouse and maybe another restaurant (can't remember). Various bars everywhere for cold ones.

It's pretty much a one-stop shop there. You shouldn't have to leave the casino property to pretty much find what you need, unless you just wanna get out and drive to get away for a few hours.

If you can get booked on-site at the Veranda or Terrace hotels (which are nice), a free shuttle comes around every 15 min. Once you get on, it makes it's little loop, but you'll be at your destination in 3 minutes or less. Very convenient. They're still offering those rooms for $69/night, without tax, if you book for the full 9/10-night event. It's a great deal, especially if you get a roommate to split the expense.

About 75 yards from the Veranda Hotel is the Convention Center. THIS is where the action matches were held. It also housed about 75 Diamond barboxes for a multitude of amateur league tournaments. It was pretty crazy to see that many nice tables all in one spot.

But, back to the action portion. There were 3-4 different rooms that allowed smokers and gamblers. I literally walked into the room at one point and it was stone silence. Billy Incardona and Shane Van Boening were playing 2-ball.....1-pocket. The game was that Billy got the break, but had to break safe (I believe). He only had to make 1 ball to win. Shane had to make both. $1000 a game. Yikes. I watched them trade safes for 45 MINUTES without either one of them making a ball. You could have cut the tension in the room with a knife. It was surreal. A legend (Billy) vs. a legend in the making (if Shane already isn't).

There were maybe another 8-10 tables in the room with various players matching up, some woofing......it was pool in it's most exciting form (to me). Road players, shortstops, some pro's, sweaters, you name it. I would have spent more time in there, but the smoke got to me, plus it was difficult to pull myself away from the Open area, which was smoke-free and filled with pro's playing amazing pool.

In that convention center, there was also a "manufacturer's row" of different cue-makers, pool-related products such as clothing, etc. etc.

I'd like to promise you that if you came you'd have the time of your life. But, I don't know you and I sure would hate to make a promise I couldn't keep.

The one thing I know is that even if some of the pro's elect to not show up, it's going to pave the way for more shortstops and lower tier pro's that aren't affliated with BB to make some waves. There will still be GREAT POOL played at this event.

Not to mention, SVB isn't part of BB. Neither are some of the Filipinos. And I'm sure SOME of the BB players will try to make it.

Tell you what, if you show up, I'll buy you a beer and play a few racks with you. So, you got that goin' for ya. :)

BTW, there were right around 140-155 players for each of the disciplines.....Bank Pool, 1-Pocket and 9-ball. Greg Sullivan told me that this event, in it's first year, was bigger than the DCC was in it's inital one.

So, hopes are high. I hope to see many AZ'ers there, yourself included.


P.S. I am not affiliated with Diamond, Accu-Stats, Harrah's Casino or the Southern Classic Tournament in general.....in any way. I just think that when you pair this with the DCC, Greg and the crew could really get a Pro tour started. Even if it was just a seasonal-type 4 events a year (Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter), it would be a start. The DCC is established. Last year was a "feeler", if you will, for the SCT. I'm hoping this year cements it for The Powers That Be, and a 3rd event gets launched in the future.
 
.......I went last year and had a BLAST!!! Greg Sullivan, Chad, and the crew from Diamond put on a great event, not to mention Accu-Stats with their TV table set-up.

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A few steps away from there was an extremely nice cue-maker from Tx (Ron Geyer, I think? I owe him a beer too, for some help he gave me, so I hope I see him again someday)......who was replacing tips, cleaning shafts, general cue maintenance, etc. etc., plus he had a nice supply of pool/cue accessories.

Wow, that sounds like an incredible experience. Thanks for posting that review! I wish I could go.

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Ron Geyer (of the Custom Cue Connection) is absolutely top notch in every way. He is incredibly knowledgeable about all things pool, and does fantastic work, every time. He's also a super nice guy, and will always try to help out if at all possible. I met him in Houston a decade ago (or more), and haven't let anyone else touch my cues since then (except once, maybe twice, when I had "emergency" tip repairs). His phone number is (210) 213-7665.

Sorry for the semi-off-topic post, but I wanted to share my experience with Ron.

-Blake
 
Thanks for posting Ron's number. I may give him a call to see if he's coming back to Tunica this year.

He had some very simple, but nice joint protectors for sale there. He said I bought more sets than anyone he had ever dealt with. Lol. I bought (what I thought) was enough for me and my best friend.

I'd like to get some more. Again, they weren't fancy, but for the price and the fact that I'm a low-frills guy, they worked and looked perfect for me.
 
Wow

Big Truck and Justin, thanks for the great Info.
I forgot how great the Derby was in Louisville.
Sounds like I need to make a road trip.

SVB and Francisco are scheduled to be here at California Billiard Club, Mountain View Ca. for the West Coast Challenge July 3rd through 7th.
Francisco won the whole Shebang last year.
 
Wow, that sounds like an incredible experience. Thanks for posting that review! I wish I could go.

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Ron Geyer (of the Custom Cue Connection) is absolutely top notch in every way. He is incredibly knowledgeable about all things pool, and does fantastic work, every time. He's also a super nice guy, and will always try to help out if at all possible. I met him in Houston a decade ago (or more), and haven't let anyone else touch my cues since then (except once, maybe twice, when I had "emergency" tip repairs). His phone number is (210) 213-7665.

Sorry for the semi-off-topic post, but I wanted to share my experience with Ron.

-Blake

Ron Geyer is the only cue repair I know of with an PhD. :shocked2: No I don't mean a "Pool Hall Diploma" either. He actually has a real PhD. Doctor of Philosophy. Ron hung up his coat and tie years ago and pursued his passion, Pool Tournaments. He's definitely one of the VERY best you will ever encounter. A wealth of knowledge regarding cues too. Go figure.

Ray
 
Gambled everyday I was there,so did Harry, only reason we go Z,

If you're referring to my above post, I guess I should clarify....

In each player's meeting for the Open events, it was expressly stated by Ken Shuman (sp?) that there was to be NO gambling in the Open area. It was against state casino gaming laws, etc. etc.

HOWEVER, did some gambling occur? Oh, I'm sure it did. I was there for the entire duration and never once saw any money change hands IN THAT ROOM, so for the ones that did get into action, either they kept it very discreet in the room......or they paid up outside the room. Which is cool with me. Not that my opinion counts for anything.

I will say that a VERY, VERY heavy hitter in the pool industry expressly told me to my face, that they knew players would gamble....that they actually did want them to, since that's part of the attraction and fun.....but to keep it very, very much on the down low. Only doing it intelligently.

I will say recount this anecdote.........

......the first day of the event, during the Banks tournament, I was warming up on a corner table. There was a tourney match going on next to me, with a well known pro/road player, (whom I shall allow to remain nameless) and an older gentleman that I didn't recognize.

I was only halfway paying attention to their match, as I was trying to stay loose by hitting some balls. But, there were at least 3 instances where both players woofed pretty heavily back and forth regarding certain shots. As in, one player claimed that a ball barely nicked another one before it was pocketed, which is obviously against the rules in Bank Pool. Everything has to go in clean and the number of rails and the pocket has to be called. Disputes of this nature.

Anyway, this happened a few times and it starts getting kinda heated. They griped about needing a referee, etc. etc.

At the end of the match, I believe the older gentleman got the best of the pro/road player to win it. The younger guy is LIVID. I mean LIIIIIIVID.

He slams his cue down and says to the older fellow, "Ya know what? Eff you. Let's play for real. What kind of spot do you want? Blah, blah, blah." The older fellow says, "We just played for 2 hours. I'm tired. I need some rest. Maybe later." He puts up his stuff and tries to leave.

The younger guy says, "No. Let's play right now. Expletive, expletive, expletive.". He then pulls out THE SINGLE BIGGEST ROLL I've ever seen. I'd say it's thicker than the thickest of ham sandwiches, but that's doing a disservice to the roll. And to a ham sandwich. It had to be 4" thick (I literally just grabbed a tape measure and verified that in my mind's eye. Four inches is bigger than you think it is. ;) ). It's huge.

The young guy throws it down, smack dab in the middle of the table for all to see, and says to bring it on.

Another player.......a pro/road player, who I shall also allow to remain nameless, as I'm only 98.5% of his name say, "Hey, man. You heard what they said in the beginning. Put the $hit up and walk away."

With that, the older gentleman leaves. The younger man grumbles, stuffs it back into his pocket, gathers all his stuff up and leaves. Cursing the whole time.

So, I did see respect (and obvious disrespect) for the rules while I was there. We were warned that the gaming commission would be walking around incognito to see what pool players were doing.

In conclusion. Don't do it in that room. And if you do........pay somewhere else. Not pouncing on you, GreenFelt, btw. Just sayin' that a lot of us love action. A lot of us love events like this. Just keep it discreet.

And apparently you did, since I was there the whole time and never saw it happen. :thumbup:


P.S. It occurred to me later that the younger guy pulled that roll out of his pocket. I have NO IDEA how anyone could shoot pool with that in their pocket. I can't even put a single penny in any of my pockets or it irritates me. He was wearing baggy, dress slacks, tho, but still...........the roll was just huge.
 
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