would you cue-makers???

duke@neo.rr.com

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is there a cue-maker on this forum that would be willing to help me learn to make cues? my main focus would be "sneaky pete's" as imo they are the best playing cues. I can't bring myself to ask Bob DZ personally as he IS in my city of Erie,PA. I learn fairly quick and would pay close attention to what you're telling me, as pool is kinda my life. I've been playing since I was like 16-17 and am 29 now (in 23 days), and can't see myself working the rest of my days in a factory or something similar. I want to be in the pool related buisness. it's something I've wanted to learn for a while now and is not a "phase" like some people. all I ask for is a chance to prove myself worthy of teaching...that's all. I've been told I play pretty well, but I don't think I'll ever "leave my mark" playing, so maybe cue-making is how I can do it. any responses please leave them here, or call me at: Jeff Duke (814)602-5526. I'll try to get back to you asap about this matter. thanks in advance guys, Jeff
 
If you never ask,you might lose! Why can't you bring yourself to ask Bob Dz? Ever it you sweep his floor for knowledge. Talk with Dieckman in MI http://www.cuemaker.com , for his phone number. Due must be paid whether a poolplayer or a cuemaker.
 
I hate to discourage you JD but cuemaking is just like pool playing.
The time you put into it, put into another field would be a lot more profitable.
Imagine spending 6 gruelling months learning how to make cues and spending 6 gruelling months learing another vocation. Let's say learning Autocad or CNC operations or motorcycle repair. Which one will be more financially rewarding? Cuemaking won't even come close.
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
is there a cue-maker on this forum that would be willing to help me learn to make cues? my main focus would be "sneaky pete's" as imo they are the best playing cues. I can't bring myself to ask Bob DZ personally as he IS in my city of Erie,PA. I learn fairly quick and would pay close attention to what you're telling me, as pool is kinda my life. I've been playing since I was like 16-17 and am 29 now (in 23 days), and can't see myself working the rest of my days in a factory or something similar. I want to be in the pool related buisness. it's something I've wanted to learn for a while now and is not a "phase" like some people. all I ask for is a chance to prove myself worthy of teaching...that's all. I've been told I play pretty well, but I don't think I'll ever "leave my mark" playing, so maybe cue-making is how I can do it. any responses please leave them here, or call me at: Jeff Duke (814)602-5526. I'll try to get back to you asap about this matter. thanks in advance guys, Jeff

Hi Jeff,

My "spies" told me about this post so I thought I'd respond.

I'm surprised you were reluctant to approach me about this. The worst that could happen is that I'd tell you "No, I won't help you". Sure, you would be in direct competition with me but so what? I'll survive. And if you were afraid of alienating me, how could I reasonably be upset with you for following your dream?

That said, joeyincali is right. There are much better ways to make a living. But if you are determined to explore this as a career, remember that the majority of cuemakers build cues part time...as a sideline to their "real" jobs. Most cuemakers have a background in machining. If you don't, the learning curve can be pretty steep. The initial investment required in machinery, tooling & supplies can be daunting. Even if you restrict yourself to building SPs, you need a lathe, shaft blanks, ferrules, tips, bumpers, joint pins, inserts plus all the specialized tooling needed to install everything accurately. And you must be accurate. If you try to cut corners, your reputation will quickly suffer. Not good for business.

The information needed to get started is out there. Hightower & Deickmann have books and/or tapes available that show you everything you need to get started. Your first task is to acquire some of these & see what you're getting into. Even this will require spending a decent chunk of change, unless you can find someone willing to part with their previously viewed books/tapes at a reduced cost (hint, hint: me).

Or, if you want hands-on training, that is available too but at an appreciably higher cost & probably some traveling. And you still need to buy your equipment & supplies.

I'd be willing to help you out if you show some initiative as far as learning what you can with the information available to you but I don't think you'll find too many cuemakers who are willing to show you all the ropes for nothing. When I got started I sent questions to many cuemakers who never even responded. A few yrs later, I sent out another question concerning a particular problem I had & none other than Thomas Wayne responded with an in-depth analysis of my problem & the solution I needed. When I asked why he decided to help me now when he ignored me before, he said that in my first email, I wanted the basics handed to me on a platter. In the 2nd email, it was obvious I had done my homework & paid some dues. That made the difference. That act of kindness on his part stuck with me & I fully appreciate his reasoning.

It's too bad you didn't mention this when you first ordered the SP I'm currently building for you. I could have walked you through the basics. Next time you stop by, we'll talk.
 
Dzcues, I personality thank you for that reply! And as I mention in a early post to Duke. Why didn't he ask or mention it to you! A mentor once told me it would take thirty years to be where he was today - that was thirty years ago and I'm not where he is today! You never will gain in competition in years.
 
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duke@neo.rr.com said:
is there a cue-maker on this forum that would be willing to help me learn to make cues? my main focus would be "sneaky pete's" as imo they are the best playing cues. I can't bring myself to ask Bob DZ personally as he IS in my city of Erie,PA. I learn fairly quick and would pay close attention to what you're telling me, as pool is kinda my life. I've been playing since I was like 16-17 and am 29 now (in 23 days), and can't see myself working the rest of my days in a factory or something similar. I want to be in the pool related buisness. it's something I've wanted to learn for a while now and is not a "phase" like some people. all I ask for is a chance to prove myself worthy of teaching...that's all. I've been told I play pretty well, but I don't think I'll ever "leave my mark" playing, so maybe cue-making is how I can do it. any responses please leave them here, or call me at: Jeff Duke (814)602-5526. I'll try to get back to you asap about this matter. thanks in advance guys, Jeff

Your first step would be to take some courses at a local vocational school in machining. A cue maker could help you learn cue making but they can't be teaching you from scratch you have to come with some basic knowledge in the machines. It would be like going for a job and you can't read or write.
 
rethink

talked to bob DZ today. we talked more $$ than anything. looks like I'm going to have to really save some money, or find someone I'm going to be able to "apprentice" under while using their equipment. I just can't afford the machines on my wages at the moment.:( :( :( darn this city and their "lack of proper wages"
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
I've been playing since I was like 16-17 and am 29 now (in 23 days), and can't see myself working the rest of my days in a factory or something similar. I want to be in the pool related buisness.
Duke! As a cuemaker, you are working in a factory [shop with machinery], you might try getting a job whether full time, part time, weekend, or what can be workout, with a near by billiard supply or retail store to get selling experience. While you study informations and save money for machinery or opportunity to get into cuemaking. Or just visit [ allow distance ] other cuemakers ask pick their brain.
 
duke@neo.rr.com said:
talked to bob DZ today. we talked more $$ than anything. looks like I'm going to have to really save some money, or find someone I'm going to be able to "apprentice" under while using their equipment. I just can't afford the machines on my wages at the moment.:( :( :( darn this city and their "lack of proper wages"

Good luck in that endeavor. Not to many local repair mechanics or cue builders will let someone learn from them and then use their equipment so as to be a competitor. I, myself, wouldn't let anyone even turn on one of my machines let alone use them, especially someone inexperianced in machine tool operations. They cut their finger, get a lawyer and then own my shop.

Dick
 
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