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Koop

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Who will win?

My pick for this year: Ching-Shun Yang
Although I would love to see an American bring it home, I have a feeling the trophy is staying in Asia this year.


P.S. If anyone is going to be taping the WPC this year and would like to sell a copy, please email me at dkoopman@statestreet.com


Regards,
Dave
 
To take a break from the discussion of who isn't going to the WPC, this is a great thread.

How about Alex Papalyon this year? He came so close last time. Since he has experienced the hoopla of the WPC last year, he may be a good candidate to win this year. He has certainly got the talent and the respect from his peers. I think he's got a good shot! :)

ManlyShot
 
manlyshot said:
To take a break from the discussion of who isn't going to the WPC, this is a great thread.

How about Alex Papalyon this year? He came so close last time. Since he has experienced the hoopla of the WPC last year, he may be a good candidate to win this year. He has certainly got the talent and the respect from his peers. I think he's got a good shot! :)

ManlyShot

Another thing Alex shows - HEART . He will never, ever, quit. Besides, he's a cute LITTLE fella.

Can't believe I said that, and I'm not even gay.

Later, Pel
 
DDKoop said:
Who will win?

My pick for this year: Ching-Shun Yang
Although I would love to see an American bring it home, I have a feeling the trophy is staying in Asia this year.


P.S. If anyone is going to be taping the WPC this year and would like to sell a copy, please email me at dkoopman@statestreet.com


Regards,
Dave

In a thread on the WPC in May, I posted the following as my projected top five, so I'll stick with my original projection.

1. Pagulayan
2. Strickland
3. Immonen
4. Yang
5. Bustamante

I really believe that Alex's time has arrived. As for possible dark horses, I'll go with Niels Feijen, Mike Davis and Sitoshi Kawabata.
 
I dont see Yang winning it.The U.S. Is playing very strong this year.I pick Archer to win.Immonen is 2pick. Alex does not play safe enough he goes for crazy shots when there is a obvious easy safe.Deuel "goes for it" as well in big matches. Basavich has a sporty chance. It is amazing how good he really plays. I am not a big Archer fan ,but,It is almost boring to watch Archer he just Break/runs out, and runs out and runs out,and out and out. You all know what I am talking about with his game. No Mercy.
 
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Efren Reyes gets my vote. The most magical pool player around. It is time that he wins another world championship. ;)
 
bethesilentone said:
Alex does not play safe enough he goes for crazy shots when there is a obvious easy safe.

And more often than not he makes those crazy shots, which is what sets him ahead of the conservative players and is the reason I'm picking him to win this years WPC :D
 
daddypool said:
Hi DDKoop,
Keep my email address handy: daddypool2003@yahoo.com
as about 1 week after WPC ends, i will be sent DVDs of all "Live" matches!!!

(yep, i'm one of those lucky ones)
daddypool

Will do and thank you for posting.

I like Alex too and sincerely hope he does get past the mental barriers which seem to have plagued him in the past. Truly a great player and maybe the most fun to watch behind only Mr. McCready.

Dave
 
Two outsiders

Daryl Peach and Oliver Ortmann.

Both have been blazing a trail through the euro players, and since the WPC is played on the same equipment I would rate their chance highly assuming they make it past the group stages (tough!).
 
Raistlin said:
Daryl Peach and Oliver Ortmann.

Both have been blazing a trail through the euro players, and since the WPC is played on the same equipment I would rate their chance highly assuming they make it past the group stages (tough!).

I'n inclined to disagree. The state of European pool was something I tried to gauge when I attended the BCA Open. A significant European contingent that included Immonen, Souqet, VanDenBerg, Hohmann, and Feijen was in the BCA Open field, but only Immonen finished in the Top 16.

As for the English contingent of Majid, Hundal, and Peach, all three played in a UPA event I attended last August in New York called the Big Applie Nine Ball Challenge. Not one of them finshed in the Top 16.

Obviously, former world 9-ball champions Immonen and Souquet always have to be reckoned with, but the overall performance of the European contingent at the BCA Open and the Big Apple Nine Ball challenge doesn't bode well for Europe's chances at the WPC.
 
sjm said:
I'n inclined to disagree. The state of European pool was something I tried to gauge when I attended the BCA Open. A significant European contingent that included Immonen, Souqet, VanDenBerg, Hohmann, and Feijen was in the BCA Open field, but only Immonen finished in the Top 16.

As for the English contingent of Majid, Hundal, and Peach, all three played in a UPA event I attended last August in New York called the Big Applie Nine Ball Challenge. Not one of them finshed in the Top 16.

Although you do fail to mention that Majid finished joint 17th with players like Jimmy Wetch and Max Eberle.

Obviously, former world 9-ball champions Immonen and Souquet always have to be reckoned with, but the overall performance of the European contingent at the BCA Open and the Big Apple Nine Ball challenge doesn't bode well for Europe's chances at the WPC.

We'll see. It sounds like you are basing your entire assessment of European pool on two tournaments. Little bit harsh don't you think? It would be like me basing my entire assessment of US pool on their performance in the last WPC.

IMHO a European player has more chance of winning than an American this year. Big call? Maybe.

I owe you a beer if I am wrong sjm!
 
Well, it's difficult question. Basically, people are analyzing which continent has a largest possibility to have a dark horse winner. Last year it was Europe as the dark horse Hohmann took the title. Besides obvious winners, IMHO there is an equal chance of every continent having a surprise winner. Besides Immonen and Souquet there are many good world class players in Europe, Feijen, Ortmann, Storm, Drago, Lely for instance. In Asia there are plenty of capable players besides obvious Reyes, Bustamante, Yang, Chao such as Hsia, Parica, Luat, Takahashi, Jeong and these I wouldn't call dark horses despite the lack of WPC success. In America there are many good players besides Archer, Strickland, Morris, Pagulayan, Jones such as Basavitch, Eberle etc.

Picking up the winner is very, very difficult. How many of the names I mentioned here are uncapable of winning the WPC ? Hardly any IMHO.... but the truth is that there aren't many dark horse winners in WPC lately. Maybe it turns out to be the decade of dark horses... :D
 
Nice discussion but the Yanks are not gonna play a big part in this years WPM. It is going to be a battle between Asia and Europe. And in the end Niels Feijen will be the winner.
 
Raistlin said:
We'll see. It sounds like you are basing your entire assessment of European pool on two tournaments. Little bit harsh don't you think? It would be like me basing my entire assessment of US pool on their performance in the last WPC.

IMHO a European player has more chance of winning than an American this year. Big call? Maybe.

I owe you a beer if I am wrong sjm!

No doubt, Raistlin, I am guilty of doing just that. I've only had the pleasure of attending two me's tournaments over the past year in which Europe had a large contingent. In those two events, I spent many hours watching the European players. Guess all I'm saying is that the European players haven't shown me much on the occasions I've been lucky enough to see them.

Two tournaments may not seem like much, but the truth is that it's a rarity that a large European contingent faces off in a field inclusive of the best Asians and Americans. One time it happens, and without question the best field of the pool year outside of the WPC, is at the BCA Open.

The only reason that the Big Apple Nine Ball Challenge had a stellar field inclusive of so many great American, Asian, and European players was that, as it took place just days after the International Challenge of Champions at Mohegan Sun (not far from New York City), several European stars were "in the neighborhood" anyway.

As I've noted, these two events were both nightmare for European players.

So, by the way, was the Iinternational Challenge of Champions, an eight player invitational single elimination event. The three players from Europe, namely Souquet, Peach, and VanDenBerg, all lost in the first round.

If you (or anyone else) can name even one other tournament since the last WPC in which, in the presence of top American and Asian players, a European contingent (aside from Immonen and Souquet, both of whom I called forces to be reckoned with in my post) made a good showing, please do.

I'm actually European born, and would love to see Europe perform well in the WPC. But I still maintain that my opinion was arrived at objectively and that I have based it on players that I myself got to watch at length.
 
I think I have to agree with DDKoop. I would have to say that Yang is probably "my pick," but that's mostly because I know who he is and I've seen his break (in a word: incredible!). However, there are a ton of Asian players I haven't seen and I don't know anything about, so it would not surprise me to see an Asian player not as well known as Yang take it all, just as Hohmann, a not-so-well-known Euro, did last year. I'll be pulling for Max (he's such a nice guy), Danny (I'd just love to see his face if he won it all), Charlie (keep your boos to yourself), JJ (it would be cool to be reigning US Open and WPC champion concurrently, wouldn't it?), etc., but it wouldn't shock me to see Hsia, Takahashi, Okamura, Kang, Chao, or some Asian player I don't know do very well. And of course, there's always the Filipinos....

But I like Yang. His mentor is a former world champion, and the tournament is practically in Yang's back yard.
 
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