WTB: New South West.
- Thread starter JayTS
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If you are looking to sell your cue, it would be nice for you to post the link to your cue.
Good luck in your search because it will not be easy based on South West Cues new pricing.
I am sure you already know about indyq but just in case www.indyq.com he ususally has 10 or more new SW cues in stock. Don't go if you are looking for a low price though. Roy's prices are premium. Although the funny part is often SW's for sale in China and Taiwan tend to be priced higher even when well used.
Thanks, yes I have checked indyq and he has some very nice cues on his website for sale. Unfortunately his prices are a little above premium but I suppose considering the SW price raise for new cues caused this and his prices aren't really out of the value spectrum. The old SW new cue price ranged from $1600-$1800ish, resale value at around $1k higher than SW sells them for or $100 per year wait higher than that when bought used or without wait. So for instance if the new SW cue price is up to ~$2800 with a 10 year wait then his prices of $3800 for no wait on a new or good condition cue is warranted. Thanks for your imput! -Jason
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have you tried vince tedesko, out of Vegas??
Well the thing about Roy is that he pays high prices for the cues. Often more than what other people can get elsewhere. So when someone is getting a new SW and they want to flip it they turn to Roy because they want to get a quick profit and don't want to hassle with trying to find a buyer through places like this.
Actually it's a chicken/egg sort of thing. 2003 I got my SW from Laurie and it was $1400. I said to Laurie that it must be nice to have a full order book 10 years out. She said yes but the problem was that she was getting 10 year old prices but paying current costs. So she adjusted the pricing to the consumer to reflect that.
But the prices now reflect what the flipper market was getting for the cues. Now you could take that to mean that this is the true value of the cues as set by the market or it's the artificial value brought on by the limited supply. In any event for 18 years Roy has constantly bought at retail plus and then added the amount he wanted to earn on top of it. Having sold thousands of SW cue this way his formula has worked and he is in my mind one of the pillars of SW's popularity since he maintains the largest archive of SW cues on the internet and has promoted them consistently for that time. Of course the ten-year wait was there before Roy showed up (he and I ordered our first SWs in the same year). But since 1993 he really got busy trying to be one of the people who always had a decent number of new SW cues in stock.
And he did. And while he does not publish his prices it's clear that his pricing was a factor in Laurie's decision to raise her prices and change how she quotes the price for new orders. The SW situation is a rare one in retail. Generally most small shops don't have a ten year backlog of orders which are mostly retail. So this obviously creates a situation where the product is traded above the retail price asked for by the shop.
If things change such as SW upping their output, orders dropping off, or as Roy found out SW reversing policy then the investment into cues at retail could turn out bad. Roy bought a wrapless handle SW for a LOT of money based on Laurie's statement that they would not ever make them again. He put the cue up for sale for the price paid plus markup and shortly thereafter Laurie resumed making wrapless SW cues. Thus as long as she does Roy is upside down in this cue with zero hope of recovering even close to what he paid.
Lately though he has been reducing his SouthWest inventory and turning down purchases due to the new pricing. I just counted 7 cues in stock down from 15 or more just two years ago.
But for now, he still stands as one of the few places where an interested customer can have some selection, view available cues in detail and get one with no waiting.
Shoot me an email and I will send you Vinces' info...it was good a little over a year ago, I picked up 2 from him...jontravistaylor@hotmail.com
BTW I have a nice ebony nose cue, but will probably be gone very soon.
JV
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