imagine if TAR had 28,000 viewers for a match

center pocket

It's just a hobby, but a fun one.
Silver Member
We are already paying them a minimum of $1500 with a max of $4500 for playing pool for about 12 hours. If players are not smart enough to figure out its in their best interests to help out the people paying that rate then I dont want to work with them because they are too dumb to deal with.

The list is slowing getting smaller until we we either get a list of guys who get it and will pull in the same direction or we just burn all the way out and go into porn. (Back up plan all along)

Paying out more money to the players is not the answer.

It is always good to have a solid backup plan!
 

Flake

Banned
Thank you for the substantive addition of such wise observation to this conversation. It is truly a statement for the ages.

I think you're right too, cause you're American, you're all smart, right DUDE?
 

center pocket

It's just a hobby, but a fun one.
Silver Member
Flake I wouldn't be proud of representing bilijar9's videos on youtube. That dude duplicates streams and DVDs that people depend on to make a living. I think he even ripped off TAR 28 already from Justin's stream. That guy is the epitome of "free water".
 

Flake

Banned
Flake I wouldn't be proud of representing bilijar9's videos on youtube. That dude duplicates streams and DVDs that people depend on to make a living. I think he even ripped off TAR 28 already from Justin's stream. That guy is the epitome of "free water".

I'm very proud of who I am. That's my channel and I upload only videos from my "friends" from accu stats so Justin shouldn't be worry about it. Thanks for "compliment"
 

JohnnyP

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Justin:

Is there a way to let first time viewers (non pool player types) click in and watch free for ten minutes or so to get them hooked, then offer them one hour for a dollar or something like that? Doubt they would stick around that long.
 

JCIN

TheActionReport.com
Gold Member
A little off topic here, but Justin, how did the meeting go with the video/web guy?

Fatz

He's putting a quote and timeline together for me. Hopefully hear something this week. If it all works out he could start working on it beginning of September. Just have to see what numbers he comes back with and the all the associated costs of hosting/delivery/maintenance.
 

JCIN

TheActionReport.com
Gold Member
Justin:

Is there a way to let first time viewers (non pool player types) click in and watch free for ten minutes or so to get them hooked, then offer them one hour for a dollar or something like that? Doubt they would stick around that long.

That is not possible with our PPV system.
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
Silver Member
Dont you have an ethnic cleansing to go to or something?

Someone needs to do a JCIN compilation, cuz you keep throwing lines like that out fairly often, and they always make me laugh.

Damn, that's funny. :p
 

BasementDweller

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I was watching the rover Curiosity land on Mars today on a stream and saw that it peaked at around 28,000 online viewers at one point. I think Justin would sh*t himself if he had that many viewers for a TAR match!

You really believe we landed on Mars?

If you ask me it was more than likely just done up in some secret studio, probably in Vegas. The whole TAR thing is probably just a front to cover this whole thing up.

Some of you guys are so gullible.
 

Flake

Banned
Dont you have an ethnic cleansing to go to or something?

wow! IT knows where is europe and bosnia, great for you son. Now tell me how much is 2+2? take your time and please don't bomb my country, we don't want your DEMOCRACY


I apologize for off topic, I won't post anything here nor this forum again, bye
 
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Hungarian

C'mon, man!
Silver Member
wow! IT knows where is europe and bosnia, great for you son. Now tell me how much is 2+2? take your time and please don't bomb my country, we don't want your DEMOCRACY


I apologize for off topic, I won't post anything here nor this forum again, bye

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya..

Bye
 

Bigtruck

Capt Diff Lock
Gold Member
Silver Member
Forget 28,000...all we need is 1000.

I get that there is always something more you can do but seriously....we have been at this five years now. Accu-Stats has been around twenty but I dont see anyone busting Pat's balls because he didnt find a way to get tens of thousands of people to pay for pool. I have an idea what numbers Accu-Stats does on events and for the most part on comprable length events we are in the same ball park. The streaming audience who will pay is pretty much what it is. At this point we are trying to gain five or ten people at a time.

Its a hell of a lot harder to get people to buy something online than most people think.

I'm actually considering making some training videos on things like "How to copy and paste" and "what's this thing called alt/tab?"

It is hard.

Ray
 

OTB

I DIDN'T DO IT!!!!
Silver Member
I'm very happy with everything you do for pool Justin and TAR......:smile:

What would you suggest ? Borrowing some money for billboard ads? Perhaps a TV commercial to reach all of those millions of people just waiting to pay to watch pool on a computer?

For anyone not keeping score at home....for 99.99% of the people on earth watching pool is right above watching buildings deteriorate on the excitement scale. Every May there is pro event with 5000-6000 amateur players less than a hundred feet away who spend on average a dime each to travel to Vegas from all over the world but won't walk that hundred feet and pay $15 to watch pros play.

Yeah I could do better. So could everyone else in this game from the players to the fans.

We have Shane playing Bustamante, Archer playing Bustamante, Alex playing Shane, on and on....best players in the world in interesting long format matches and no one seems to give a shit.

Where's the "billiard media"? I mean we put up all the money, set up all the matches, do all the production, create all the promo stuff, do free podcasts talking about it, have a facebook page, engage in the biggest pool forum on the planet....is it really that much to think maybe someone with a magazine or something would come along and say "Hey ....how about we tell some people about this?" But nope. Better off doing another table issue, an article about how wiley and crafty those road guys from the '40's were and six more columns about how to draw a cue ball two rails.

So yeah I suck at promotion but considering where the bar in this industry is set I don't feel all that terrible.

Edit to add: The only reason TAR is still around is because of the hard core support from a small group of people most of them on this forum. They put their money where their mouth is and support what we and others like us do in pool. To them I say thank you. I know when we make a match the first thing I think about is "Will our fans think this is something cool?" So yeah I haven't looked as hard for new people as I should but I damn sure try to give the ones we have a good product.
 

oldzilla

Accu-Stats Messenger
Silver Member
I'm very proud of who I am. That's my channel and I upload only videos from my "friends" from accu stats so Justin shouldn't be worry about it. Thanks for "compliment"

I just better not say what i said here ! So you just imagine.

Btw he is noooo friend to Accu-Stats, thats for sure.

Pirate indeed.
 
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NickV

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I'm very proud of who I am. That's my channel and I upload only videos from my "friends" from accu stats so Justin shouldn't be worry about it. Thanks for "compliment"

Bilijar9 posted 5 days ago
"Hi guys, your "lovely" accu-stats claimed right on last few videos I uploaded so youtube removed them. I'll upload them somewhere else so stay with me. Best regards from bilijar9 :)
PS. One more thing, I just want to say hello to Jim from accu stats and send him a message: your time is over my friend."

Glad he left.
 
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