Disabled Vets stolen cues
- Thread starter Virgil Earp
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i will contact my wholsaler and drop ship- donate a new uniloc predator z shaft
because of the great gesture from dan on the road line.and ill donate anew 1x2 whitten style case..or if dan wants i can set him up with a custom and he can send me the road line to match it up to a shaft correctly
thank you for putting your life on the line for our freedom so we can sit contently at home with our family (safe) Bill cornerstone cues
because of the great gesture from dan on the road line.and ill donate anew 1x2 whitten style case..or if dan wants i can set him up with a custom and he can send me the road line to match it up to a shaft correctly
thank you for putting your life on the line for our freedom so we can sit contently at home with our family (safe) Bill cornerstone cues
Has the man contacted any of those that have offered him help?
This could be a scam, but if has contacted none of you I would be inclined to think it is legit. He did not provide any contact information at all (which was an error either way if he isn't going to check the forum). He apparently has not been on the forum (at least with that username) since he posted. The only thing he asked for was help finding his stolen items.
This could be a scam, but if has contacted none of you I would be inclined to think it is legit. He did not provide any contact information at all (which was an error either way if he isn't going to check the forum). He apparently has not been on the forum (at least with that username) since he posted. The only thing he asked for was help finding his stolen items.
Again, his DD214 is the only way to ensure this is legit. Those who served will understand. If you haven't served, let us (those who served) determine his legitimacy.
Thanks,
Fellow OEF combat Veteran
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Thanks,
Fellow OEF combat Veteran
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
a dd-214 isn't going to prove this story is legit.
his name, where the alleged theft took place, some contact with the establishment's owner or manager who was on duty, and a possible police report, now those would prove whether this is real or not.
And once again, for anyone who might have missed it; the op's az timestamp indicated that he was back on here at 11:39 am the morning after posting these two 'victim of theft' threads. I saw this with my two eyes, mostly my left one, though, much better vision.
subsequently, the timestamp was changed back to 2:44 am.
carry on.
best,
brian kc <----- not wrapping a cue for the op yet.
reason..
The 214 will prove that he served and in what theaters. That's the whole bases for people wanting to help him out and also why he mentioned that he was a disabled vet in the title. It's nothing to file a false police report but producing a 214 (member copy 4) is significantly more difficult.
If we are using your metrics for proof, there are tons of people out there that have had cues stolen that have reports and meet your criteria. A whole section of stolen cues (some with police reports) and people are not offering up help in the same way this thread is. If the disabled vet portion isn't a factor then I'm totally off base here.
The 214 will prove that he served and in what theaters. That's the whole bases for people wanting to help him out and also why he mentioned that he was a disabled vet in the title. It's nothing to file a false police report but producing a 214 (member copy 4) is significantly more difficult.
If we are using your metrics for proof, there are tons of people out there that have had cues stolen that have reports and meet your criteria. A whole section of stolen cues (some with police reports) and people are not offering up help in the same way this thread is. If the disabled vet portion isn't a factor then I'm totally off base here.
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a dd-214 isn't going to prove this story is legit.
his name, where the alleged theft took place, some contact with the establishment's owner or manager who was on duty, and a possible police report, now those would prove whether this is real or not.
And once again, for anyone who might have missed it; the op's az timestamp indicated that he was back on here at 11:39 am the morning after posting these two 'victim of theft' threads. I saw this with my two eyes, mostly my left one, though, much better vision.
subsequently, the timestamp was changed back to 2:44 am.
carry on.
best,
brian kc <----- not wrapping a cue for the op yet.
The only thing the OP has to prove to me is he served where he says he did.. That's good enough for me to send him a cue for his service.. Since he really never asked anyone for anything except to look out for his cues, I am inclined to help him get back on the table if that's where he wants to be.. I'm not going to ask him to jump thru a bunch of hoops for me..While I understand "Due diligence", the forum can be somewhat intimidating to a new member.. He is welcome to contact me if he so chooses and I will make a determination at that time and pass it on to the rest of you that offered to help him..
Just my 2 cents....
I hear story's of stolen, and in need. Do any of these people who say they where ripped off or short of luck ever give back... This might be karma. Not talking about the kids, or students... But grown men and women who can afford to pay to play the game of pool, but don't have the money to buy what they need... And yes I don't mean a predator or custom cue.. A players is like $80 and a 1x1 case is $15... Ok a glove $10 for a total of $105..... Chalk is free... Break cue? Use a house cue. Tip shouldn't matter you probity can't tell or know the difference... This shit is very simple... I'm sorry if I'm so forward. And for those that have done the right thing and either lost or had there things taken. These things I posted for $105 could be saved for, even if you don't have funds. Asking AZ for help, if your true and honest is ok. But to ask for things of high grade is bull. I once asked to start a fund to donate cue stuff for those in need and worthy. But never have I asked for high grade, if you suck a players is fine. If your a pro then you can play with a players. Either way all these in need of and using AZ as a way to suck the good out of the members to the point they don't want to do anything anymore is crazy and enough..... Just my 2 cents.... This should be a sticky for anyone ready to ask for things from us... If your story can't be confirmed then you shouldn't get anything from any of us..... Again sorry to all that I might offend by my post.... All the best Dom
P.s. I'm all for the vets and disabled, kids and students. I just don't understand why people want high end gifts.. Even tho he didn't ask for a predator he made it his point to say everything he had missing, but not where he was missing what pool hall or bar, date time. State..... That he placed a police report. Nothing just stolen things he had and any help.... Just don't sound right. The DD214 would help. But more then that the Poolhall or bar so we can call and verify his things where stolen.. Being a vet can be true, making a report could be true. But the people inthe location bar Poolhall would know what he had and if it was taken..... :thumbup:
I hear story's of stolen, and in need. Do any of these people who say they where ripped off or short of luck ever give back... This might be karma. Not talking about the kids, or students... But grown men and women who can afford to pay to play the game of pool, but don't have the money to buy what they need... And yes I don't mean a predator or custom cue.. A players is like $80 and a 1x1 case is $15... Ok a glove $10 for a total of $105..... Chalk is free... Break cue? Use a house cue. Tip shouldn't matter you probity can't tell or know the difference... This shit is very simple... I'm sorry if I'm so forward. And for those that have done the right thing and either lost or had there things taken. These things I posted for $105 could be saved for, even if you don't have funds. Asking AZ for help, if your true and honest is ok. But to ask for things of high grade is bull. I once asked to start a fund to donate cue stuff for those in need and worthy. But never have I asked for high grade, if you suck a players is fine. If your a pro then you can play with a players. Either way all these in need of and using AZ as a way to suck the good out of the members to the point they don't want to do anything anymore is crazy and enough..... Just my 2 cents.... This should be a sticky for anyone ready to ask for things from us... If your story can't be confirmed then you shouldn't get anything from any of us..... Again sorry to all that I might offend by my post.... All the best Dom
P.s. I'm all for the vets and disabled, kids and students. I just don't understand why people want high end gifts.. Even tho he didn't ask for a predator he made it his point to say everything he had missing, but not where he was missing what pool hall or bar, date time. State..... That he placed a police report. Nothing just stolen things he had and any help.... Just don't sound right. The DD214 would help. But more then that the Poolhall or bar so we can call and verify his things where stolen.. Being a vet can be true, making a report could be true. But the people inthe location bar Poolhall would know what he had and if it was taken..... :thumbup:
No, the "whole bases [sic] for people wanting to help him out" was more than his being a vet, or a disabled vet. It was because he was a disabled vet who had his pool gear stolen. And that he found solace in playing pool and that it was an important part of his recovery, all but gone now with the theft of his cues. I believe that was the basis for people wanting to help.
the dd 214 will prove that he was in the armed forces. not much more. if that's your threshold for proving whether this story is true then best of luck to you because that is what you'll need, luck.
my "metrics for proof" would have someone like Jerry Forsyth contacting the room owner where this allegedly happened, which he said he would do, to begin verifying that a theft ever occurred and any other pertinent details that he might get.
Having the victim's name and where they live is another important key because, as you must know, azb is a huge network of pool people and likely an azer from his area would know this guy or know someone who knows this guy, if he's real.
A filed police report would simply be more weight on the scale pointing toward, and not away from credibility.
I would think before sending out equipment someone would want as much evidence they can get that the person is who they say they are and that they were, in fact, ripped off.
To recap hypotheticals:
If someone credible speaks with a room owner and is told yes this guy exists and yes his stuff was stolen and whether the police were called, added to having the victims name and location so we at least know he's not hiding it and we may even be able to get further confirmation then I will maintain this is much more foolproof than simply being shown a dd-214.
btw, I have a dd-214 and if I were a scammer, I could have it say I am elvis Presley in about 30 minutes.
best,
brian kc
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If you choose to reward someone simply for their service, I think that's really nice.
If someone says their cues and case were stolen and they are looking for help, I'm making sure they're not full of crap before they get a present from me, service member or not. I still work hard for what I have. :wink:
as for "asking him to jump thru a bunch of hoops", are you referring to asking his name, where he's from, and where the theft happened?
And for this forum possibly being "intimidating for a new member", we are supposed to believe this is a soldier who was injured while defending our freedom, right?
best,
brian kc
I agree with both of you but I lean more towards the op needs to offer up some
basic general info ie: : Date, Name of location, maybe the names of a witness
or someone at the locaton that was party to the event.
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I am willing to do some very quick in person fact checking at the said establishment
and if everything checks out I will be the first to offer up some equipment to get this
guy back in the game. I don't think it is too much to ask. I wish we lived in a world
where we could take everything at face value but unfortunately those days have
come and went.
This is no different than someone standing on a street corner begging for food or money. Most people look the other way because they say oh he's going to buy booze or drugs with it.
I say as long as you give with your heart it doesn't matter what they do with it because you did in your heart what you thought was right.
If the man is a scammer he will have to answer for his sins not us!
I say as long as you give with your heart it doesn't matter what they do with it because you did in your heart what you thought was right.
If the man is a scammer he will have to answer for his sins not us!
I disagree. When you give a guy a few bucks or some food who is standing on the
street corner you are immediately able to size up the situation. when you send
something to someone you have never seen or met it is a much different situation
imo. There are plenty of people willing to give something to someone with the
blindfolds on and that is fine if they want to but I work hard for my money and I
want to know that if I give my away it is at least going to a charitable and honest
cause.
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imo your resources would be better allocated if you focused on giving to the deserving.
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I sure wish the OP would get back in this thread and offer up some general
information about his loss so this thread can get back on track. I know
there is at least a half a dozen guys who would ship the goods if they felt
it was going to a good cause. I sure would .