No envy here, nice try though
If you really want to know how Shanelle Lorain plays
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No envy here, nice try though
spanky79 said:
I knew somebody was going to say this in response to my post. As I recall there was some question as to whether that was even her facebook page at all, or a page created by a fan.
Regardless, there is (currently) no qualification to be a pro. Any person that plays in a pro tournament can be called a pro, or anybody else who wants to call themselves a pro for that matter. The word "pro" in reference to pool is almost meaningless. Obviously it would be nice if there were some measurable and minimum skill level required to be a pro, or if there were some other qualification system in place. There isn't. She can call herself whatever she wants, and by the (non) standards we currently have, she is a "pro". She doesn't make any claims of being able to be competitive with the other "pros" though.
Seems that she makes a good deal of her income from pool the the term Pro fits. I commend her for
1) Having the balls to get in there and try which is more than I can say for the peanut gallery
2) Having grace and composure while being outplayed and decisively beaten which is more than I can say of MOST OF THE MEN PRO'S.
Funny how the women show more class than any of the men and some of the women that frequent this site or most tournaments.
It was against Corey Duel. Was it excusable for Stevie Moore to go down 7-0 and 12 -2 to Shane in an alternate break format? Last I heard Stevie plays ok
. I'm sure any world beater posting here can get a game with him.
Rep to you my friend.
You are wrong here.
However I have yet to see Shanelle do any wrong other than play at a level that every male pro once played under.
No one has compared Shanelle to any top pro female or male other than people ripping on her. Sorry but I have watched her play a little and she isn't as bad as people make it out. She is no world beater but as I understand she doesn't pretend to be either. She just jumps in and tries knowing she has the worst of it. When a gambler does this he/she is a hero but when an attractive LADY does it she is ripped.
I don't know her personally but people like her generally want to make it on their abilities than their looks. But just because they want to play great doesn't mean they will. When opportunities arise that pays the bills it's hard to turn down.
I do have a question for you and everyone else that had been hard on her. Would you or anyone else go up to her and say these things to her face?
Are you really saying these world beaters weren't born with a shaft in one hand and balls in the other!!
P.S. nice post :thumbup:
I really haven't heard anyone say anything negative personally about Shanelle or attack her on a personal level. By all accounts she's a lovely person. But I don't think it is really out of line for people to critique her play on here either. This is a pool forum and she is a pool player. She enters high profile events and engages in PPV stream matches so her play is going to get talked about. Sure we've all entered as dead money for the experience and what not, but she has put herself out there in a pretty high profile so if she doesn't back it up at the table people will discuss that. I'm sure if she ran a 6 pack at the Amway Cup we'd all be talking about that too.
Personally, I'd like to see her talent pan out. If she could become a world beater she might give the game more exposure and make every pool player more money.
Personally, I'd like to see her talent pan out. If she could become a world beater she might give the game more exposure and make every pool player more money.
Well, at one point they said, "this is not very polite to our guest from America. She traveled such a long way, she deserves at least a prance around the table in those high heels." Very dry Chinese humor indeed.
My feeling is that this particular match would've made anyone cannon fodder against Tsai. Having said that, does seem like Shanelle has zero business playing against real pros. As pleasing to the eye as she is, dead weight is not entertaining in a pro tournament.
Btw the commentator on the right is Fang Hsiao Lang, a former world class pro and from what I gather Tsai's coach. He used to play out of my home room in Taipei, and the guy was a zen pool master. Should've taken some lessons back then I could probably run more than 3 balls now :smile:
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Fair enough and I apologize for any accusation. I believe she is put in these PPV situations because of 1) her looks and 2) her name acquired from her looks. That being said other than the few make able shots in her match at the Amway Cup what needs to be corrected to help her improve.
Not trying to make any excuses but she never had a chance against in her matches other than playing perfect. The purpose of this site is to help other players improve and push billiards forward so what would you recommend?
I'll start;
1) To much lateral movement in her elbow.
2) Needs to be more decisive if decision making
3) Do not lunge into the break, losing power
Lmao at 27:20 the guy goes, "I suggest Shanelle use up her 45 second shot clock, then call an extension...would be her only strategy to maximize face time on camera."
Other guy goes, "and I prepared all these stats and background info on Shanelle, all wasted effort"
first guy quips, "Well hurry up and give us the stats/background now, her 45 seconds is almost up!"
Throughout they were cracking jokes on how she dressed up all pretty for nothing...
Other guy goes, "and I prepared all these stats and background info on Shanelle, all wasted effort"
first guy quips, "Well hurry up and give us the stats/background now, her 45 seconds is almost up!"
Throughout they were cracking jokes on how she dressed up all pretty for nothing...
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I went and listened to that. Just to put it into context, I don't think they were outright bagging on Shanelle, more like the fact that the match was 0-6, race to 7 and Shanelle was coming to the table dead hooked, with a 1-9 combo imminent, if she didn't make the kick (she didn't). I guess the context was that this might be Shanelle's last trip to the table.
Eric
You're right, and in any case it was good-natured, not mean spirited. Those heels CANNOT be helping her game any, that's for sure.
Ga Young Kim likes to play in heels. She's a world class player who could mop the floor with 99 out of every 100 players on this site... While she's wearing heels.
Ms Kim put it simply, when she feels like she looks sharp, she plays sharp.
I'm not saying that's Ms Loraine's feeling on it, but while I understand the dynamics of stance, footing, and balance, I doubt that heels are at the top of the list of things to focus on.