Scott frost has retired from professional pool
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The gap between the middle class and rich has certainly widened quite a bit. The American dream is not what it once was, the plan to success was work your butt off in school and get a degree, then you will get this great job and make good money but that is really not the case now. These days there are so many college graduates working poverty line jobs it is ridiculous and elderly people needing money working at McDonalds.
As for the tattoo and piercing comment, considering there are plenty of successful people with tattoos or piercings it is a ludicrous statement. I have no idea what they have to do with someones work ethic or ability other then it being an eyesore to some in their personal opinion. A person with tattoos these days is no different then someone of a different race or skin color as more than 1 in 5 people have a tattoo these days and should not be discriminated for that.
I do believe hard work pays off still but this is not the same world you grew up in. The world is getting tougher now and the golden days of this country when it was booming are gone since we have been on the industrial decline for a very long time. The pay level has not increased in most jobs or not enough compared to the cost of living which has caused some poverty. I am not discounting that you are right about lazy ass people mooching off the hard working and playing the system. Someone on Facebook posted the other day a lady driving a brand new Jag and she was using food stamps for groceries.
The gap between the middle class and rich has certainly widened quite a bit. The American dream is not what it once was, the plan to success was work your butt off in school and get a degree, then you will get this great job and make good money but that is really not the case now. These days there are so many college graduates working poverty line jobs it is ridiculous and elderly people needing money working at McDonalds.
As for the tattoo and piercing comment, considering there are plenty of successful people with tattoos or piercings it is a ludicrous statement. I have no idea what they have to do with someones work ethic or ability other then it being an eyesore to some in their personal opinion. A person with tattoos these days is no different then someone of a different race or skin color as more than 1 in 5 people have a tattoo these days and should not be discriminated for that.
I do believe hard work pays off still but this is not the same world you grew up in. The world is getting tougher now and the golden days of this country when it was booming are gone since we have been on the industrial decline for a very long time. The pay level has not increased in most jobs or not enough compared to the cost of living which has caused some poverty. I am not discounting that you are right about lazy ass people mooching off the hard working and playing the system. Someone on Facebook posted the other day a lady driving a brand new Jag and she was using food stamps for groceries.
Well said. Don't pay attention to Ken4nits.
The gap between the middle class and rich has certainly widened quite a bit. The American dream is not what it once was, the plan to success was work your butt off in school and get a degree, then you will get this great job and make good money but that is really not the case now. These days there are so many college graduates working poverty line jobs it is ridiculous and elderly people needing money working at McDonalds.
As for the tattoo and piercing comment, considering there are plenty of successful people with tattoos or piercings it is a ludicrous statement. I have no idea what they have to do with someones work ethic or ability other then it being an eyesore to some in their personal opinion. A person with tattoos these days is no different then someone of a different race or skin color as more than 1 in 5 people have a tattoo these days and should not be discriminated for that.
I do believe hard work pays off still but this is not the same world you grew up in. The world is getting tougher now and the golden days of this country when it was booming are gone since we have been on the industrial decline for a very long time. The pay level has not increased in most jobs or not enough compared to the cost of living which has caused some poverty. I am not discounting that you are right about lazy ass people mooching off the hard working and playing the system. Someone on Facebook posted the other day a lady driving a brand new Jag and she was using food stamps for groceries.
Amen Brother Lenny, very well said!
I was making just as much money 30 years ago as iam today.
As you and everyone else knows my bills are 3-5 times more then what they were back then, so money has never been so tite for me before!
The gap between the middle class and rich has certainly widened quite a bit. The American dream is not what it once was, the plan to success was work your butt off in school and get a degree, then you will get this great job and make good money but that is really not the case now. These days there are so many college graduates working poverty line jobs it is ridiculous and elderly people needing money working at McDonalds.
As for the tattoo and piercing comment, considering there are plenty of successful people with tattoos or piercings it is a ludicrous statement. I have no idea what they have to do with someones work ethic or ability other then it being an eyesore to some in their personal opinion. A person with tattoos these days is no different then someone of a different race or skin color as more than 1 in 5 people have a tattoo these days and should not be discriminated for that.
I do believe hard work pays off still but this is not the same world you grew up in. The world is getting tougher now and the golden days of this country when it was booming are gone since we have been on the industrial decline for a very long time. The pay level has not increased in most jobs or not enough compared to the cost of living which has caused some poverty. I am not discounting that you are right about lazy ass people mooching off the hard working and playing the system. Someone on Facebook posted the other day a lady driving a brand new Jag and she was using food stamps for groceries.
Really?!?
The world isn't getting tougher, I think people are not the quality of the people of the previous generations.
Lenny you are bright guy, and you are the hiring manager. You have very little to judge someone on, and YOUR job depends on making the best choices for the company to represent it in a professional manner in front of its customers.
1.) Lets say a guy1 comes in for an interview for an engineering position and his hair is neatly cut, no tattoos, piercings, wearing a suit and tie, with a solid grade point average from a good engineering school. He interviews well, and seems like a solid candidate.
2.) Guy2 comes in, he is also wearing a nice looking suit and tie. His hair is long but neatly tied in a pony tail. While partially hidden from the long sleeves his tattoos are noticed and cover part of his hands. He has those big ring earrings that hollow out the lobe. He also interviews well and comes from another good engineering school and seems bright.
Both of these guys are competing for the same job, and your job depends on who you choose.
Tell me who you choose. I want to see if you are stupid or a liar.
Right or wrong everyone is in competition for jobs. There isn't a shortage of jobs there is shortage of people we need to hire.
Ken
Richie -
What have you done to improve your skills so you are worth 3-5 times more than you were 30 years ago?
Ken
Ken
Are you drunk? On kookaid?
Are you drunk? On kookaid?
No just waiting for the first of the month so I can get guberment cheese...
Ken
Things change and that is just how life is. I still am in disbelief that you believe the world is not a tougher place to get a job then say 20-30 years back or even further. The quality of people has changed I will give you that as I go through a drive thru and not get a hello, smile, or thanks for coming most of the time like it used to be. Do a poll on here and see if people think the USA is doing better now then it was 20-30 years back when you were getting in the work force.
As for the hiring of someone, if I was the boss and I had two people who were equal in education then I would base my employing them on experience and personality. If I have to work with someone it would be nice to have someone who is enjoyable to be around, maybe a difference of an introvert or extrovert person. The big holes in the ears and tattoos where they cannot be hidden have to be taken into consideration because someone like you might walk in the door and walk right back out which affects the bottom line of making money. Tattoos where they can be hidden I see no real problem with at all but what you are referring to are extreme heavily tattooed and pierced people who cannot cover them up.
You said earlier you wouldn't discriminate against hiring someone based on if they had tattoos are piercings and now you say you would.
Just as I thought, you aren't stupid, just a liar.
Ken
it is very good. I was making over 80/k a year at one point. of course that was one of the best dealing jobs in the country at the time.
50k is no problem at all.
I personally would not discriminate but understand there are people like you out there that would so that is really what is being taken into consideration. I would still employ that person but just like myself who has many tattoos I understand that I might not be the pick to be the poster boy for the company. I think you are out there a bit if you do not think this country is worse off employment wise with job opportunities now then it was 20-30 years ago. Do a poll and I will bet it is more then 50% who think we are worse off. Thanks for the insult Ken, twist it however you like it. :wink:
Couldn't agree more with this statement. I know plenty of players that have SEMI retired with it all but don't feel the need to put their choice out there for the world to see.
Like I said in my previous post... Most pros that say they are retired are not really fully retired from playing but rather retired to going out on the tournament trail with their winnings alone. That is they either have backers, their own BR's or people helping them out. That's not retiring and that is a fact. Retiring is fully releasing yourself from whatever game or sport you are involved in when it comes to competing at a professional level. That is the clear definition of retirement!!
We will see how serious Mr. Frost really takes his retirement.. Ill bet the farm if the money is right he will be stroking balls cooly into 4 1/2inch pockets sooner than kicking it in a recliner and sipping on Miller High Life....
Anybody wanna throw up the cash on this??
At the time, did you have any visible tattoos or unusual piercings? Did many of the other dealers who were making $80K?
Not sure how long ago, but would the tattoo/piercing affect the hiring process today?
Actually curious to hear the opinion of someone who has been there.
Do you think Scott is making a good decision to attend dealing school with the expectation he will make $80K? More or less?
Thanks
Lenny -
No insult intended, just wanted to show that people say things they don’t really mean. There was no twisting. You said one thing, and then said something different. Politicians do it all the time, and when you were given a specific example you changed your story too.
My point if you read my earlier note is and I do believe it. IF you prepare (i.e. go to school, get training, even know how to read and write), and don't use drugs so you can pass a drug test, have some common sense, be willing to move, there are tons of opportunities. If you live in Detroit and say there aren’t any jobs here, it’s because of all those jobs going to China and you wont move, its hard for me to feel sorry for you.
My liberal friends like 1on1pooltourneys think it is society’s fault that people can’t read, want to have Ebonics as a subject in school, and are not able to get a job.
So my friend Lenny it is tougher if you use drugs, don’t prepare, can’t read or write or don’t get a trade or degree because yes those low skill jobs are no longer available like they were years ago. I have interviewed lots of folks for jobs and I can tell you from my experience, there are a lot more jobs than qualified candidates.
Look at the immigrants that can’t speak English move here and within a generation are successful. We have generations that have been in government housing and don't know and don't want a job.
Best of rolls my friend,
Ken
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You were probably going for yourself in an Indian joint. The 80k job i mean.
Good move. He is not retiring. Didn't everyone read his post. He is going to play in a few events a year. He is putting this game in it's proper place. It is good for Scott and it is good for the game. A working man with a side passion for a recreation that he loves can be beneficial in every way. He may soon be able to afford to enjoy it.
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I just said they need to be taken into consideration because of people out there who are potential customers who might discriminate but I would not discriminate personally so not sure how I said anything different.
he will not make that, and the tattoo thing depends on where you work. I was making that in 2008 and like i said It was the best dealing job you could get back then. 50k is not really hard to make. I was also keeping my own tips and most places pool their tips. I was in southern Cali. Az is different, I also dont know if he is going to school for poker or table games. I was in table games.
yes I was , in a high limit room. I do know dealers that make that outside the high limit room. Taxes where less back then, now everyone pays on everything they make, The good ole days are gone.