Scott frost has retired from professional pool

[JAM]

I don't know Scott Frost's personal situation, whether he has children or not. If he is a single man, the sky is the limit on what jobs are available to him. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Because of Scott's ability to get action, the gift of gab, he has personality. This is a good attribute when seeking new employment. If Scott is single, he only has himself to support.

That said, anybody with children who doesn't do everything in their power to suport them, which means working full-time if you can't make money shooting pool, I believe they should apply themselves to a more guaranteed-type income. Children should always come first. If you quit your job to play pool and you have children, shame on you. I know of one pool player who has several children and does not pay support. Quite sad when you think about it.

Some pool players, gamblers as a whole, are selfish when it comes to support their families. Ronnie Allen was the opposite. He sent money home to his wife when he was on the road. Today, there's several players who don't support their families, leaving the mother and the children high and dry. They are selfish and want to live the high life in the pool world. We all know pool is a rich man's high.

I hope Scott makes the right decision for himself. You can take Scott out of pool, but you will never take pool out of Scott's heart. He will always have a presence in the pool world, even if he works full-time. :wink:

 

[Toncam]

Well im assuming the guy has some juice in a place that hes going to go to work for, thats always an edge. Hes 38-39 years old ? Thats kind of old to get into the mind set of going to work in one of these joints, plus the fact that guy himself was/is a player who will now be dealing to guys betting $5 and $10 and giving him shit while hes dealing, might be a little tough to fade mentally. But if this is what he wants to do, then go for it, it aint easy and will take time to become a clerk, but it can be done.

My advice would be to learn craps and roulette as his main games and the carnival games, forget about 21, thats for idiots and you want to smash people over the head with a 2 x 4 half the time, lol.
At least with the dice game you use your head and your hands and you got a crew to back you up if you mess something up. I been a crap dealer since 82 and seen it all a thousand times over, the wheel is good although 90% of the time its a stroke game and most of the customers have no clue what theyre doing and couldnt win if you told them what the next 3 numbers would be ahead of time, i kid you not.

Looking back, its been real good to me but if i had to start all over again, i wouldnt go into it. I started out differently than almost everyone else, save the real old timers, but thats another story.

 

[lstevedus]

Are you drunk? On kookaid?

NO, the scary part is he's probably not. I live in an area where there are a lot of these types. They just don't get it. Shallow people never do. What's important to them is what you have not what you are. I am so glad I can choose not to be around them any more.

 

[RBC]

Who determines if a pool player is a "Pro" pool player?

By definition, a person is a professional if they engage in an activity as their main paid occupation.


So, a 22 year old, who lives with his parents, does not have a job, and goes to the pool hall every day and hustles the locals out of $50 a day for spending money, by definition is a "Pro" pool player.

But, there is no organization who grants him that title. Basically, it is self proclaimed. The title can come and go at anytime for whatever reason he wants. Based on this, I don't put much merit in the term "Pro" pool player.

Please don't think that I don't put merit in the person, just the title. There are many players out there, and certainly Scott has earned his place in this group, who I consider "Professional Caliber" pool players. I respect their talent and skill tremendously. I also wish there was a better way for them to capitalize on that skill and talent, but currently there just isn't. In my opinion, Scott is doing what he needs to do to live his life. He doesn't see the life he wants without a paying job, so that's what he's going to do. My hat is off to him. I'm sure this was a tough decision.

I wait patiently for the time when we have a real "Professional Pool" organization. One who will tell us who are "Pro" pool players. One who will be able to promote Professional Pool to the public. I do feel very strongly that this organization almost has to grow out of the amateur ranks. If "Pro Pool" can't even earn fans from the group that is most passionate about pool, the amateurs, then they have no chance at earning fans from the non pool playing public.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Someone once told me a joke about the Pro Pool Player, and the Extra Largre Pizza.

Punch line was.

The Extra Large Pizza can feed a family of four.

The life of a Pro Pool player is IMHO not an attractive one. Few have anything to show for their careers, when eyes, or other body parts fail, and they can no longer play. Many wind up with lung problem from years of being exposed to second hand smoke. Few file taxes, or pay social security, so they have no social security, or medicare in the end of life.

 

[lstevedus]

I heard the top pool players were all in a club..... the name may be "The Club of Rome"......we heard they were planning a tour called "Global 2000" which I think was a series of $2000. added tournaments all over the world......I may have the "facts" mixed up, but it was something like that. 'The Global Game is the Teacher'

Thank you for the link. The last election there was a guy by the name of Sheldon Adelson. I don't think he got his moneys worth.

 

[spanky79]

Well im assuming the guy has some juice in a place that hes going to go to work for, thats always an edge. Hes 38-39 years old ? Thats kind of old to get into the mind set of going to work in one of these joints, plus the fact that guy himself was/is a player who will now be dealing to guys betting $5 and $10 and giving him shit while hes dealing, might be a little tough to fade mentally. But if this is what he wants to do, then go for it, it aint easy and will take time to become a clerk, but it can be done.

My advice would be to learn craps and roulette as his main games and the carnival games, forget about 21, thats for idiots and you want to smash people over the head with a 2 x 4 half the time, lol.
At least with the dice game you use your head and your hands and you got a crew to back you up if you mess something up. I been a crap dealer since 82 and seen it all a thousand times over, the wheel is good although 90% of the time its a stroke game and most of the customers have no clue what theyre doing and couldnt win if you told them what the next 3 numbers would be ahead of time, i kid you not.

Looking back, its been real good to me but if i had to start all over again, i wouldnt go into it. I started out differently than almost everyone else, save the real old timers, but thats another story.

I couldnt of said it better. In CAlifornia we didnt have craps and roulette for so long i never learned them. Now without them its hard for me to get back in. It makes me sick seeing as i can deal circles around most dealers working.
The only reason I want to get back in is the money. The people get old but it is not as bad as dealing with pool players.

 

[CJ Wiley]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional

Who determines if a pool player is a "Pro" pool player?

By definition, a person is a professional if they engage in an activity as their main paid occupation.


So, if a 22 year old, who lives with his parents, does not have a job, and goes to the pool hall every day and hustles the locals out of $50 a day for spending money, by definition is a "Pro" pool player.

But, there is no organization who grants him that title. Basically, it is self proclaimed. The title can come and go at anytime for whatever reason he wants. Based on this, I don't put much merit in the term "Pro" pool player.

Please don't think that I don't put merit in the person, just the title. There are many players out there, and certainly Scott has earned his place in this group, who I consider "Professional Caliber" pool players. I respect their talent and skill tremendously. I also wish there was a better way for them to capitalize on that skill and talent, but currently there just isn't. In my opinion, Scott is doing what he needs to do to live his life. He doesn't see the life he wants without a paying job, so that's what he's going to do. My hat is off to him. I'm sure this was a tough decision.

I wait patiently for the time when we have a real "Professional Pool" organization. One who will tell us who are "Pro" pool players. One who will be able to promote Professional Pool to the public. I do feel very strongly that this organization almost has to grow out of the amateur ranks. If "Pro Pool" can't even earn fans from the group that is most passionate about pool, the amateurs, then they have no chance at earning fans from the non pool playing public.

While I agree that a "Professional Pool Organization" is necessary I don't consider professionalism to be money oriented it's more a matter of expertise in a given trade or profession which Scott Frost obviously has. There are examples of professionals that work for things other than compensation.....For Example:


Definition[edit source | editbeta]


The main criteria for professionalism includes the following:

Expert and specialized knowledge in field which one is practicing professionally.[8]

Excellent manual/practical and literary skills in relation to profession.[9]

High quality work in (examples): creations, products, services, presentations, consultancy, primary/other research, administrative, marketing, photography or other work endeavors.

A high standard of professional ethics, behavior and work activities while carrying out one's profession (as an employee, self-employed person, career, enterprise, business, company, or partnership/associate/colleague, etc.). The professional owes a higher duty to a client, often a privilege of confidentiality, as well as a duty not to abandon a genuine client just because he or she may not be able to pay or remunerate the professional. Often the professional is required to put the interest of the client ahead of his own interests.

Reasonable work morale and motivation. Having interest and desire to do a job well as holding positive attitude towards the profession are important elements in attaining a high level of professionalism.

Appropriate treatment of relationships with colleagues. Consideration should be shown to elderly, junior or inexperienced colleagues, as well as those with special needs. An example must be set to perpetuate the attitude of one's business without doing it harm.

A professional is an expert who is a master in a specific type of profession.

 

[richiebalto]

Richie -

What have you done to improve your skills so you are worth 3-5 times more than you were 30 years ago?

Ken

Ken, i think i understand what you mean, but not all trades have that ability.

But i could of went back to school and received more knowledge in higher paying fields (i believe this is what you mean).

And i couldnt argue that point because it seems now that it would of been in my best interest to do so.

But i couldnt get my lazy ass out of the pool halls back then and that limited my education for the future for having a better paying job!

 

[chefjeff]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry since this post came from you on this little stereotype. Fortunately you post a lot of nonsense that most everyone just ignores.

Now, cousin Matt, you just unhook yourself from the back end of that hog and listen up.....


We'ins here in the state of Ioway ain't cottin' to your nonsense no more. Yous gots it all wrong. We is farmers first and foremost and anyone who says otherwise can just head on down that freeway to the big city and get robbed and raped for fun.

Me?...I a headin' back to the barn for some good time funnin'

Jeff, spitooee, Livingston

 

[chefjeff]

Good luck, Scott. You gave it a really good go from the start.

Jeff Livingston

 

[chefjeff]

I think I might teach
If I charge what gene does that's good money


1 man and no aiming system

How does your post help anyone or help pool overall?..or help your action in the long run?

I swear good players are their own worst enemies!

I've taken lessons from good players like you are and those cost me a bit. The $200 i spent with Gene (and the $150 with Scott Lee) did more for my flawed game than ANY of the pros who showed me how THEY play, not how to improve how I play.

You already took his dough by kicking his azzz...isn't that enough for now?


Jeff Livingston

 

[chefjeff]

You might have met my mom. she was what used to be called a mechanic back In the day...she worked for most of the Vegas casinos back then..

mechanics would out count the counters.. thats how you spotted cheaters back before the eye in the sky...late 60s early 70s

fyi, counters are not cheating....well, not by simply counting cards, anyway.

Jeff Livingston

 

[JoeyA]

I think I might teach
If I charge what gene does that's good money


1 man and no aiming system

But you don't have an aiming system to teach.......
JoeyA

 

[real bartram]

But you don't have an aiming system to teach.......
JoeyA

I know but I must know something
Beat a guy who aims perfect
42 19

 

[lstevedus]

How does your post help anyone or help pool overall?..or help your action in the long run?

I swear good players are their own worst enemies!

I've taken lessons from good players like you are and those cost me a bit. The $200 i spent with Gene (and the $150 with Scott Lee) did more for my flawed game than ANY of the pros who showed me how THEY play, not how to improve how I play.

You already took his dough by kicking his azzz...isn't that enough for now?


Jeff Livingston

Dee Adkins does a lot for pool in Columbus, OH. Gene finally made it to Columbus, made a positive contribution to the pool community and is coming back to play in the tournament for the kid with cancer Saturday. Chris could also do a lot for pool in Columbus because he definitely has the name recognition, and I hope he does.

 

[Fast Lenny]

I know but I must know something
Beat a guy who aims perfect
42 19

Just teach them the force. The force is strong with Chris.

 

[Ispottheghost]

I know but I must know something
Beat a guy who aims perfect
42 19

That's funny!

 

[JoeyA]

I know but I must know something
Beat a guy who aims perfect
42 19

You probably know a LOT OF THINGS, especially about pool.

The question that begs to be answered is, "Can you teach what you know about pool to someone else, so that they too, can do what you do?"

JoeyA

 

[CJ Wiley]

It's easy to "aim" a gun,

You probably know a LOT OF THINGS, especially about pool.

The question that begs to be answered is, "Can you teach what you know about pool to someone else, so that they too, can do what you do?"

JoeyA

It's easy to "aim" a gun, but more challenging to shoot a man in the "heart".