dr_dave said:

slick cloth = delayed swerve = more net CB deflection (combined effects of squirt and swerve)

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Yes, especially with more tip offset, more butt elevation and less speed - initial CB deflected direction is unchanged, but final CB direction (“net CB deflection”) is reduced.

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Quesports said:

I’ve been too busy to get involved in this thread so far.

Also I only have time to watch the YouTube videos of the matches…

What I see there is an American team playing very tight and nervous and a Euro team that is taking a stroll in the park.

They are very relaxed and confident while the opposite is true of the American team.

One team is confident and the other is not.

Likely because the Americans expected to lose before this event even started..

Just watch the body language it tells the story of this event perfectly.

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the most loose of the loose is FILLER, the positional routes he chose on a couple of shots were mind bending

fjk said:

How close are the points?

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Really as perfect as I’ve seen.
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Mine is Dave 828-962-4545

hang-the-9 said:

The cues people aspire to own now are Predator and Cuetec. Those are by far the most common cues and shafts I see people use, and there is really not much research past those two done for what else is out there. Probably due to how easy it is to do web searches and see ads online now. Years ago, you went by word of mouth, friends, TV or AccuStats videos, so you ended up hearing of many more makers. Custom cue makers don't have ads on YouTube or TikTok.

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Brand recognition and how they are advertised to has change dramatically.

Tarheel said:

A quality custom cue by a top tier builder will never lose value. One just needs to have the discretionary income to afford it. I certainly didn’t have that ability in my teens, 20’s and 30’s. Which is where most of the production market resides. The good stuff is still in demand.

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Do you have evidence of people under 30 wanting and waiting for an opportunity to scoop up even a 3-5k cue?

MitchAlsup said:

Most young adults do not have the kind of income (or wealth) that would allow them to buy a high end cue.

And you don't fix that problem by making high end cues lower priced--
You fix the problem by making low end jobs pay more--
{{OR make lesser gamblers win big more often}}

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Don’t discount brand recognition. There are plenty of kids on the internet paying or claiming to pay thousands for Jordan’s that were released 25-30 years ago, but have been re-released in new colorways or in limited quantities/special materials. Why would they throw cash at a cue maker who might be in the hall of fame, but that they have never heard of. Even if many were to see names of famous cue makers, they would still likely opt for the most bang for the buck per the collective voice of people on their preferred social media sites.

I've always wanted to open my own place, but I do understand the risk. My plan is to first start a mobile repair business for tips, ferrules, bumpers on house cues and at tournaments. The idea here is also to get the lay of the land in my area to see where the hot and cold spots are geographically. There are plenty of bars and a number of good pool halls where I live, I can see it working out if there is a "live above" situation with an apartment attached. Then I'm not paying mortgage on my home and for a separate business.

I've thought of the self serve model based on membership. Byob, key card access, no food, no alcohol, just essentially a storage warehouse and members, but that's slim margins, and no real growth of the game. It's a tough road for sure. OP needs to wake up and see the reality of how hard it is to run a pool room.

Kindling, this cue was made to keep you warm...

skip100 said:

None of the euros would have failed to get out from that position.

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How about any 600 or above Fargo? I haven't shot any pool in a year and I would empty my pockets betting I can get out from there, with a house cue! And so would most of the guys/gals posting on here.

I want to say one more thing about that shot. The nine is in such an ideal position (very makeable) that he could have let out his stroke and played position above the side pocket. Still leaving him an easy shot on the nine, with no danger of scratching in the side. What we saw was a case of a pool player's mind going blank. He froze under pressure. That's a mental problem, not a physical one.

FeelDaShot said:

I saw a Facebook post today from Oscar mentioning how deflection is exaggerated at the Mosconi Cup due to the new slick cloth. I've never heard of this before. Can anyone explain what's going on here? I guess I don't understand how cloth can affect the amount of deflection.View attachment 867153
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Long answer: See the 6:55 point in this video:

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HawaiianEye said:

If you don't play intentional fouls at some point, you aren't very wise.

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Agreed, and we’ll stated.

lfigueroa said:

Yes, but that case is something else!

Lou Figueroa

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Looks like a Fellini.

Johnson said:

Empire Falls is top notch even for HBO, I randomly found it 2 years ago when I last had HBO. Great all around cast too.

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Absolutely. The cast is great, Ed Harris, Dennis Farina, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Helen Hunt (she is fantastic in it, especially if you've read the book). Also it marks Newman's and Joanne Woodward's final screen appearances.

If you don't play intentional fouls at some point, you aren't very wise.

I just listened to the Billy Incardona interview on Legends of the Cue.

If you like pool and would like to hear what pool stories from the 1960s to the late 1990s it will be well worth your time.

This is the link to Part 1.