Cole Dickson: Livin' large off the fat of the land

Cole was probably playing at about 60-70% his top speed then, if that. The Cole of the early 70's was a killer! He was probably only the Call Eight under Richie Florence and maybe the same over young Keith. He ran over just about everybody who crossed his path back then. Hustlers beware, Cole was a King Cobra. I played him in my poolroom a couple of times because no one else would play him. He gave me the seven, eight and nine and 9-6 in One Pocket. A couple of times I won a set and broke even. He was just too tough. The only hustler who ever came thru Cali that I know of that beat Cole was Jimmy Marino. And later on Jimmy didn't want to play him again.

Cole was a beauty to watch. He had big hands and just generated so much power with his stroke. Totally different game than Keith. Cole overpowered the balls and Keith finessed them. Richie was another different animal. On the pool table Richie was relentless, a fire breathing dragon who you couldn't kill. He could be down twenty games, go get more money, come back and bust you! A couple of times I saw very good players get Richie stuck and start chattering a little bit to him. Big mistake, he got that fire in his eyes and he wouldn't miss a ball until you were broke! Numero Uno on the West Coast for a good ten years, and probably in the top three or four in the country. I remember when Dean Chance tried to sneak Jimmy Moore in on Richie at Inglewood Bowl. They disguised him pretty good using a Hollywood make-up artist. Richie beat him anyway and afterward said he knew who he was all the time. Didn't matter to him.
You might like this thread I posted some time ago. you can search for it here on AZB. i checked. it's still there waiting for you.

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Just started watching the 10 ball on ultimate pool.

It’s a problem when Americans try to compete on the international arena.
American players used to be the best. If you are good with being a “has been” and a “used to” then enjoy it.
If players stop playing on bar boxes then room owners will get rid of them and bring in 9ft tables.
Most Americans prefer the bar box because it’s easy. There is no easy way to the top.
Why don’t you want to make America great again?

i wouldn't know enough of the american scene to fully diagnose the lack of pro growth. and i knew very little of league pool before the UP. it's possible barboxes is a factor in pro growth, but leagues cannot possibly be one. by the time you're drinking age and join a league it's too late to become a pro, no matter what tables the leagues are played on.

so then it's just two different things, recreational vs aspirational, and it seems to me both are good things and they don't really collide

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@RyanJunker
we had some discussion via PM
i sent you pics and you have been on the site several times since my last PM to you 3 days ago
as recently as 1:02pm this afternoon
i dont care if you dont want my 12.4 revo
but you could at least have had the courtesy to let me know
rather than just keep me hanging
Sorry bro didnt care.l for. hat mark on the ferrule, and i thought price was a bit too high. regards, ryan

Just started watching the 10 ball on ultimate pool.

I'm here now! In all the years I've been coming here I never played pool on the base at Clark. There used to be some decent small stakes action in the bars along walking street. Like in Margaritaville (now closed and relocated) they had two challenge tables where they played Eight Ball for a drink or 50-100P a game. The challenge board might be six to eight names long, but once I got on that table I would often hold it until the last man (and woman) quit. I would play for free (loser pays the 15-20P charge per game) until the last player quit and there were no more names on the board. Good memories from ten to fifteen years ago. I might make 500-1,000P when it was all said and done, ha ha. It felt good to win anyway. Somehow validating that a 60+ year old man could still beat all comers.

Even back then there were a few spots (in hotels) further up Fields toward Korea Town where the real pool players hung out. I would often find guys (foreigners) who liked to play One Pocket. Here we often played for 500 or 1,000P a game. I did okay but the level of competition was much higher. A couple of times they brought a Filipino in to play me. These guys didn't really know the nuances of One Pocket but they were real players and I had trouble with them, usually losing a few games before giving up. They never missed on those tables and had enough pool sense to not leave me a good shot at a bank or anything else. Roland Garcia was one guy who I played before he became known in the USA. Another short chunky Pinoy guy (name ?) took me down at One Pocket. I told him he was a very good pool hustler.

Nowadays pool is experiencing a revival here with several new poolrooms opening up in the last year or two. The most significant are Capito's which now has two locations, one by Checkpoint and one in Dau. You will see some of the best Pinoy hustlers (many who played in the recent Philippine Open) gambling in there. Old time guys like Lining, Alcano and Gabica may show up to challenge them. Efren plays in here too (he lives in Angeles). The game is always Ten Ball, races from 15 to 30 depending on the size of the bet. A typical game has 50,000P in the middle ($1,000), and the crowd is betting game by game (500-1,000P bets). I've seen bigger games here too, much bigger! It's a lively atmosphere to say the least.

No, I don't play anymore. I still have my trusty Predator cue but no motivation to put in the practice required to find some semblance of my stroke. Maybe one day I will feel like trying to get halfway in stroke again. That's good enough to bang them in playing Bank Pool!
Talking about no bar tables, I lived in Taiwan for three years in the 70s and I never saw an American pool table of any kind on the entire island that wasn't in an American club or recreation center of some type. The Taiwanese all played snooker. I lived in a top floor apartment in Taipei and the bottom floor was a snooker hall.

I used to play almost everyday in the clubs there and I used to kill everybody over there. I won the Island-Wide 14.1 Championship two years in a row and I never played that game in my life except for practicing around as a kid when I worked in the pool hall. I never found anybody over there who beat me playing 9-ball or 8-ball. I won a ton of money over there (in 1970s dollars) and made more money from pool than I did from my salary.

Those were the good-old days of free flowing money overseas during the Vietnam War and right after it ended. Lots of people traveling throughout the Pacific from Vietnam, Japan, Thailand, etc. and they all had money to spend and gamble with.

I had special shirts made just to play pool with. Kind of like those barongs they wear in the Philippines. I would have them put four patch pockets on the shirt. Two chest pockets and two lower pockets. I used to have so much money going on and making change during games that I needed multiple pockets to stash all my cash in. I was a walking cash register.

Going towards CF break shaft/cue, my options

I played pool for decades and decades and never invested in a break cue.

I always used my playing cue and never had any problems. I have never popped a tip off or messed one up from breaking and I have broke thousands and thousands of racks with my cues...even my most expensive custom cues.

I can break as hard with my playing cue as most people can break with their fancy break cues. As a matter of fact, I have had people come over to my table from the other side of the pool room to ask me how I break so hard. They would say, "your break is so hard and loud I can hear it all the way from the other side of the room".

Breaking hard is more of a technique than a cue. Some people can do it and some can't. I think I can do it because I started as a kid and played with adults in a real old-school pool hall instead of playing with kids my own age.

I have an old cheap Cuetec cue with a fiberglass coated shaft that I got for free from somewhere and I put a White Diamond tip on it and used it a few times just to see how it would do. It worked as well as these fancy expensive break cues people are buying.

I still prefer using my playing cue to break with. I think I can control the cue ball better with it. I don't like breaking with just speed and power without knowing what the hell is going to happen with the cue ball afterward.

There are way too many gadgets now. I see league players with thousands of dollars worth of toys and they can't make three balls in a row. Some of them can't even hold a cue stick and they are buying $250 jump cues. WTF?

The same goes for all the people thinking they are going to find some "magic" tip that will make them play like Mosconi. Put whatever tip you want on a shaft, play with it and get used to it and it will work as well as a "magic" tip.
The same as breaking, I have had tons of people come over to my table to ask me what kind of tip I was using. They would say, "I have never seen anyone put as much spin on a cue ball as you can do." They were looking for a "magic" tip.

Cole Dickson: Livin' large off the fat of the land

Cole Dickson: Livin' large off the fat of the land, already a seasoned road player at 18.

I think it is almost like a miracle that we can actually see a decent quality video of the Luat vs. Dickson One-Pocket match from Accu-Stats. I don't think there is any other really good quality video of Cole doing his thing. And there's maybe only a couple of other videos found on YouTube. Very rare. If you didn't actually see him in 68-71, for sure, you can't imagine. I bought this Accu-Stats video.

Cole shoots two twist-back long rail banks in this match. Wow! The first one is at
13:14

Then again, here at 27:30, that results in him running out.

If you didn't know, Cole used a slip stroke quite a lot. I saw him use it often enough. In this one-pocket match you can see him use it in his run out when he shoots the 5-ball at 28:00. Cole was an expert pool player. You can be sure he had good reason to develop this skill and to use it as often as he did.

Anyway, just thought y'all might find this somewhat interesting.
Cole was probably playing at about 60-70% his top speed then, if that. The Cole of the early 70's was a killer! He was probably only the Call Eight under Richie Florence and maybe the same over young Keith. He ran over just about everybody who crossed his path back then. Hustlers beware, Cole was a King Cobra. I played him in my poolroom a couple of times because no one else would play him. He gave me the seven, eight and nine and 9-6 in One Pocket. A couple of times I won a set and broke even. He was just too tough. The only hustler who ever came thru Cali that I know of that beat Cole was Jimmy Marino. And later on Jimmy didn't want to play him again.

Cole was a beauty to watch. He had big hands and just generated so much power with his stroke. Totally different game than Keith. Cole overpowered the balls and Keith finessed them. Richie was another different animal. On the pool table Richie was relentless, a fire breathing dragon who you couldn't kill. He could be down twenty games, go get more money, come back and bust you! A couple of times I saw very good players get Richie stuck and start chattering a little bit to him. Big mistake, he got that fire in his eyes and he wouldn't miss a ball until you were broke! Numero Uno on the West Coast for a good ten years, and probably in the top three or four in the country. I remember when Dean Chance tried to sneak Jimmy Moore in on Richie at Inglewood Bowl. They disguised him pretty good using a Hollywood make-up artist. Richie beat him anyway and afterward said he knew who he was all the time. Didn't matter to him.

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