Third Place-Thanks to Kim Davenport!

JAM

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Sociologists have dubbed places other than a workplace or home where people spend a great amount of time "third places." As more folks cope with joblessness and other economic uncertainties, "third places" are filling a need for haven. "I think it makes this more important. If you are down and out, to hang around with friends helps," said Ray Oldenburg, author of "The Great Good Place."

I posted about this article in the "Bar Games" thread, but I thought it truly merited its own thread. Bravo to Kim Davenport and Johnny Archer for the Marietta Billiard Club. They know how to run a pool room, it seems, and I hope they get paid back tenfold :smile:

Places like the pool hall have been around for a long time, of course, but as the job market unravels, more people reach for a "third place" —- neither home nor work, but a substitute with some of the best attributes of each.

"One of the major reasons that people go is just to hang out with other people," said Ray Oldenburg, best known for writing "The Great Good Place," a look at such sanctuaries. "There are dozens of functions of third places, but what it comes down to is not being alone," Oldenburg said.There are a lot of potential players these days: roughly 11.6 million Americans —- about 400,000 in Georgia —- are officially out of work.

Some "third places" are obvious: libraries, beer gardens, pubs and coffeehouses. Some are less so: post offices and barber shops, for example. These places can bring people together across class and race lines. They offer a kind of social democracy, albeit one that often has a hierarchy of regulars and outsiders. Most important, with minimal admission fees, they are communities.

For the customers who are struggling, the pool hall provides comfort, companionship and —- for patrons —- a kind of part-time employment: Cards.

Four nights a week, poker offers customers a chance to play for "bar cash," chits that can be cashed in to buy food. You have to spend at least $5 on food to get into the game.

"A guy came in last night with $50 in bar cash," Berry said. He bought chicken wings and took them home to his family.

There are a lot of potential players these days: roughly 11.6 million Americans —- about 400,000 in Georgia —- are officially out of work.


This sounds like a GREAT pool room, man! Bravo to Kim Davenport!

One recent weekday was a day off for Mark Raniere, a 49-year-old mechanical engineer. He arrived at the pool hall by 11:30 a.m.

By 3:30 p.m., the play-for-free period had passed, and he stood, chain-smoking and watching others shoot.

He lives alone, a mile away. At the billiards club he feels at home, especially now that he knows he, too, could be jobless at some point.

Four hours after arriving, he still had his cup of water —- and a full ashtray.

"Because I’ve come here every day for so long, it wouldn't be a good idea to change my routine now," Raniere said.

Recession has softened spending in the club, but it hasn't completely blunted the desire to play pool with other people, said co-owner
Kim Davenport.

"We have tournaments or leagues seven days a week," he said. "Thursday night is our busiest night —- every table is going.:

Sometimes, though, solace lies in the warm lights and a smaller crowd on a cold afternoon.

Harold Dorden comes to the pool hall three or four times a week, now that he’s closed his construction business. The recession forced him to shut down. He and his wife are living off the salary she earns at a collection agency.

The pool hall is "an outlet," he said. "It relieves stress."

He will sometimes contribute a little money for players who don’t have quite enough cash to get a table. And he’s seen the owners sometimes let someone play without paying.

What would he do without the pool hall?

"Oh, God —- I’ve been doing this 10 years," he said. "I’d be lost. … Not only are these people friends, they are family."


Source: http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/03/15/poolhall0315.html [Retrieved 15 March 2009]

Link for Marietta Billiard Club: http://www.mariettabilliardclub.com/default.htm

Pretty neat article about the Marietta Billiard Club, I'd say.

So who here has a Third Place?
 

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Here's a pretty cool shot of Kim Davenport and Johnny Archer exchanging game strategies at the Mosconi Cup!

I met Kim Davenport for the first time a few years ago, with his extremely pleasant and lovely wife. I really liked both of them very much.

His friendship with Johnny must be very strong, as he moved from California to Georgia to effect this dream of the Marietta Billiard Club.

Sounds like a dream pool room. They have Kim Davenport giving instructions there, as well as the Scorpion Room for private parties. :smile:
 

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With the collective pool of knowledge between Kim Davenport and Johnny Archer, I'll bet the Marietta Billiard Club is one of the best pool rooms in the country. I have never been there, but I sure would like to someday if I ever get down that way.

Reed Pierce, a U.S. Open champion and one of Mississippi's finest, also opened up a pool room/restaurant with his brother. It is very successful, from all accounts that I've heard. I was told they have some of the BEST steaks east of the Mississippi. Rumor has it that he'll play just about anyone who steps foot in his fine establishment. :grin-square:

Read all about Reed: http://www.reedpierces.com/index02.html :smile:

Reed is kind of a cutie pie. Easy on the eyes. ;)

Reed Pierce's Restaurant, another Third Place! :p
 

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I'm sure everybody in Lexington, SC is happy to have Grady's Billiards, another "third place" pool room, enjoyed by many.

Grady's Bililards and Tavern: http://www.gradysbilliards.com/

Incidently, please say a prayer for Grady's wife, Randi, as she is going through a difficult time right now, battling a medical problem. :frown:

I love those lights over the beautiful Diamond tables! Pool players know how to make the pool room right! ;)
 

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Nice, JAM.

Here is an article about another room that you've probably been to a few times, I bet.

A snippet:

...Imagine stepping into a Depression-era pool hall under siege, like an indoor demilitarized zone. The floor seems like it's a hundred years old. The walls are marked with holes, and in spots, the brick exterior shows through. The tables have an ancient appearance that makes one wonder how many people must have played on them before you. Its endearing, no-frills decor feels honest and real, like the people inside it.

My father first introduced me to the Green Room about 18 years ago. After a family dinner at home, he said he knew the perfect place to go out and shoot pool. This night would change my life. Some may call it a "misspent youth," but I don't. Sure, I played pool there, but the Green Room is as much about pool as Doctor Zhivago is about medicine. It's about people and life. I've made friends there, been employed there, been educated there, and now I own it. I'm sharing my experiences because the place means so much me and, I believe, so much to Durham....​

With freeways and non-smoking laws and drinking/driving laws, shopping centers way out there, etc., I'm wondering if this type of environment can ever be really duplicated. I'm sure if pool halls become a "third place" they'll be quite different from the old-time, mostly single male, pool halls of old. The Boomers might be the main patrons as the young single guys do something else. I guess we'll be finding out if the economy continues in this direction.

Jeff Livingston
 
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JAM, do you feel comfortable in a room full of men? Does it feel like a 'third place' for you? Or would another place, perhaps more suited to women, feel more comfortable?

Curious about the gender aspect of this third place concept,

Jeff Livingston
 
JAM, do you feel comfortable in a room full of men? Does it feel like a 'third place' for you? Or would another place, perhaps more suited to women, feel more comfortable?

Curious about the gender aspect of this third place concept,

Jeff Livingston


Actually, Chefjeff, since you asked....:rotflmao1:

I have found that in my own industry, women tend to be b*tches. I actually get along much better with the men in my work environment.

In the pool room scenario, I usually get along with everybody, unlike this pool forum scenario. :embarrassed2: In fact, after being away from pool for 20 years, I walked into a pro tournament venue and immediately felt right at home with my pool buddies. It was as if I never left. :)

The thing I always enjoyed about the pool rooms in my neck of the woods is that there seemed to be no racial or gender barriers. Everyone was treated equally. I kind of always liked that -- people from all walks of life coming together in a neighborhood hangout to share an evening together of pool, exchanging strategies, sharing pool tales, and getting in action.

Sadly, today there aren't any pool rooms in my area anymore. They're pickup bars with loud music and every bar game under the sun. Pool seems to only be an afterthought. :frown:
 
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