When do you Tip?, or do you TIP a Tournament Director

[Roger Long]

Roger I know you are a smart guy, and i think you should re read the question.

Than FOCUS on the Subject of TD TIPPING, and report back with a question ON SUBJECT!

I think my question is "ON SUBJECT." If you will go back and re-read your own post you will see where you made the comment, "PERSONALLY I WOULD NEVER TIP A TD who also was a Bar/Room Owner or Tournament Promoter!" Are you now saying that I can only offer my opinion on the subject of tipping, but cannot question the basis of YOUR opinion? If so, then I choose to ignore your unauthorized mandate. Please read on.

I think your whole intention for starting this thread is just to stir up controversy, but your own opinion on tipping made me very curious. What is the difference between being the owner, or just an employee? Are you trying to say that owners already make too much money, therefore they should not be tipped? If so, I'll bet there are a lot of owners out there who would disagree with that.

Roger

 

[ShootingArts]

ettiquette

Old rules of etiquette, a tip was a gift to an inferior for performing a service or performing a service well. An owner was an equal so owners did not receive tips. I accepted tips as a worker and turned them down politely as an owner.

I doubt many realize how this rule of etiquette originated and most owners that are doing the work hands on gladly accept tips now.

Hu

I think my question is "ON SUBJECT." If you will go back and re-read your own post you will see where you made the comment, "PERSONALLY I WOULD NEVER TIP A TD who also was a Bar/Room Owner or Tournament Promoter!" Are you now saying that I can only offer my opinion on the subject of tipping, but cannot question the basis of YOUR opinion? If so, then I choose to ignore your unauthorized mandate. Please read on.

I think your whole intention for starting this thread is just to stir up controversy, but your own opinion on tipping made me very curious. What is the difference between being the owner, or just an employee? Are you trying to say that owners already make too much money, therefore they should not be tipped? If so, I'll bet there are a lot of owners out there who would disagree with that.

Roger

 

[blah blah]

A good poolroom should be a community

Because a good poolroom should be a community, I think the odd, random tip or some genuine show of appreciation is in order. In a community where you go to regular, weekly tournaments year after year, it isn't so much a tip for good service to an inferior so much as it is a 'thanks for bringing us and keeping us all together, and in order.'

TDs do work very hard, for very little. Around here they just get perks like free table time and meals on tourney nights, which they do AFTER they've just spent all day at their normal job. An earlier poster mentioned a lot of the work a TD does (entry sign ups, etc) but didn't mention promotions, customer service, or what I consider worst parts of being a TD: the referee'ing, arbitration, soothing the criers and whiners, and just general babysitting.

I've tipped $ when I've won bigger pots, but since I'm generally broke, I try to at least show some caring appreciation...

Tom- a very public thank you for your hard work and patience. You're a true Shot Caller : )

 

[ShootingArts]

hope it never is now

Because a good poolroom should be a community, I think the odd, random tip or some genuine show of appreciation is in order. In a community where you go to regular, weekly tournaments year after year, it isn't so much a tip for good service to an inferior so much as it is a 'thanks for bringing us and keeping us all together, and in order.'

TDs do work very hard, for very little. Around here they just get perks like free table time and meals on tourney nights, which they do AFTER they've just spent all day at their normal job. An earlier poster mentioned a lot of the work a TD does (entry sign ups, etc) but didn't mention promotions, customer service, or what I consider worst parts of being a TD: the referee'ing, arbitration, soothing the criers and whiners, and just general babysitting.

I've tipped $ when I've won bigger pots, but since I'm generally broke, I try to at least show some caring appreciation...

Tom- a very public thank you for your hard work and patience. You're a true Shot Caller : )

I sincerely hope nobody thinks they are throwing a bone to an inferior now, that was just an explanation of why you once tipped the help but not the owner. As it happens the owner of a restaurant waited on me herself the other day. Absolute top flight service as would be expected and yes I tipped nicely.

Hu

 

[blah blah]

tipping history

I understand: citing historical references sometimes confuses the issue, though, because the old way was so very different from now... Like the Puritan "Rule of Thumb." (That rule being the thumb's width legally allowed on the stick you used for hitting your wife.) Throw that out there and nobody wants to hear the rule of thumb you're really trying to talk about. : )

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Old rules of etiquette, a tip was a gift to an inferior for performing a service or performing a service well. An owner was an equal so owners did not receive tips. I accepted tips as a worker and turned them down politely as an owner.

I doubt many realize how this rule of etiquette originated and most owners that are doing the work hands on gladly accept tips now.

Hu

Well I never tip owners, as they are the one in most cases making all the GREEN.:wink: