Update on the Des Moines pool scene

mikeyfrost

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He sure is, but never been hit. Just kidding. I'm from the mountains of Appalachia. I don't even know anyone that could write a book, much less an uncle. We still "make our mark."

You are awesome mi amigo. Heart you pumkin...in a manly non homo type of way that is of course
 

Richardson

Who me ?
Silver Member
I have a ton of reasons as to why. I'm not quitting the game, just the pool room here really. I'll still play at home and with folks I invite over, but that's it.

P.S. I thought you were the big gambler buddy...I re-read your post and it sounds like hey I hit the jackpot up $14k this morning alone, but I dont wanna bet anything. You never came out and said you personally were gonna bet it up, but you incinuate it all the time.
P.S.

So in other words, you're pulling up ? lol

And you may not be aware of this, but my family and i own and run a business. We do not gamble with business money, we reinvest it. That money will go towards buying a new truck to make us more money. Thank you for your concern though :)
 

TheMadScientist

Justin Richardson
Silver Member
These guys aren't road players. They are players from another town wanting to come to this town to play some. They are trying to arrange everything in advance so they don't come and get no action. They aren't trying to book locks just asking for fair games. Theyre not sleepers or lieing about their real names. Nothing says road player about these boys. A road player would have showed up unannounced, sat at the bar, dumped a 100 bucks to a bad player, got spotted by a good player for more money and robbed the place. I respect what they are trying to do.

They might not be road players, but they are players that can spot anyone but Jamie on the bar box. I think Jody would need a little weight if he matched up for a big set(if they played in a tournament i might sidebet on Jody though) ;)

I think the "Oil Man" would play these guys one pocket if they chose a different date to come. He might even play some barbox 8 ball.(if he can get out of house):D
 

Cheessehead

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
no action(long)

I would like to start out by saying Jeff and I are the farthest thing from road players or champions( for christ sake, he plays in the APA).I'm sure both of us can get spotted from Josh Johnson. Hell from what I hear Jamie drilled him. I have a free weekend to play pool, that's it, I"ve always worked and I have a wife, kids and a mortgage I can't afford. The second thing I want to ask is,If the only way to get action in des moines is to be from des moines thats fine, but when I call people and they say they'll call me with more info and never call back it gets a little annoying. I'm not trying to steel I'm just trying to make a game so I have something to do this weekend.I did tell jason and mike two different things.I really don't want to play 1pkt, but If a respectable offer was made I would think about it. I want everyone to know that If jamie wants to play I will come , but he has to call me personally! not second hand or a text, just a phone call will do. As for other games I will play just call me and ask. It's real easy with me I don't want to bark or bad mouth anyone into a game.I just want to see who plays better(no b.s moves).Just get your money in the middle and find out.If I lose You'll get paid, If I win I expect the same.If I get calls confirming action by thursday I'm coming friday after work and will stay until monday or I'm busted,which ever comes first. I will not match up friday night (I'll be getting in late) saturday and sunday are open. My # is 847-226-4281 please call me...I'm bored:wink: Tom M.
 
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mikeyfrost

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Silver Member
So in other words, you're pulling up ? lol

And you may not be aware of this, but my family and i own and run a business. We do not gamble with business money, we reinvest it. That money will go towards buying a new truck to make us more money. Thank you for your concern though :)

You clearly have no idea about what pulling up even means. You'd be hard pressed to find a person on this board or in this land that would say something like that about me. I'll just leave it at that.

You brought up the spoils not me, more power to you guys I wish I was my own boss myself. I'm not mad at that one bit. Keep truckin'(is there a pun there?)
 

mikeyfrost

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Silver Member
I would like to start out by saying Jeff and I are the farthest thing from road players or champions( for christ sake, he plays in the APA).I'm sure both of us can get spotted from Josh Johnson. Hell from what I hear Jamie drilled him. I have a free weekend to play pool, that's it, I"ve always worked and I have a wife, kids and a mortgage I can't afford. The second thing I want to ask is,If the only way to get action in des moines is to be from des moines thats fine, but when I call people and they say they'll call me with more info and never call back it gets a little annoying. I'm not trying to steel I'm just trying to make a game so I have something to do this weekend.I did tell jason and mike two different things.I really don't want to play 1pkt, but If a respectable offer was made I would think about it. I want everyone to know that If jamie wants to play I will come , but he has to call me personally! not second hand or a text, just a phone call will do. As for other games I will play just call me and ask. It's real easy with me I don't want to bark or bad mouth anyone into a game.I just want to see who plays better(no b.s moves).Just get your money in the middle and find out.If I lose You'll get paid, If I win I expect the same.If I get calls confirming action by thursday I'm coming friday after work and will stay until monday or I'm busted,which ever comes first. I will not match up friday night (I'll be getting in late) saturday and sunday are open. My # is 847-226-4281 please call me...I'm bored:wink: Tom M.

I think that's fair. Well put my good man.
 

Richardson

Who me ?
Silver Member
Team Barbaro
You have no idea how long i just laughed.


Frost, noone is ever going to say anything bad about you creating action. And without you the action for the most part will dry up again no doubt.

Im not sure what you are looking for, you want people to buy you ladies and send them to your house every night to please you and keep you happy ? Do you want to hear on a daily basis... YOU ARE THE BEST ! ! !

Listen im sorry you booked some losers, and im sorry you didnt rob the town like you thought would happen. I hope to see you putting some people back in action, because if you noticed you and your crew didnt have ANY problems getting a game when you were pumping out some money.

Plus apparently this whole deal has got some people wanting to play better pool and im all for that. I actually care about the pool scene around here.

K from this post on im going to be nice to you again, you are a cool guy who is obviously upset and in need of some space. Hope to see you soon.

-Jason.
 

Richardson

Who me ?
Silver Member
I would like to start out by saying Jeff and I are the farthest thing from road players or champions( for christ sake, he plays in the APA).I'm sure both of us can get spotted from Josh Johnson. Hell from what I hear Jamie drilled him. I have a free weekend to play pool, that's it, I"ve always worked and I have a wife, kids and a mortgage I can't afford. The second thing I want to ask is,If the only way to get action in des moines is to be from des moines thats fine, but when I call people and they say they'll call me with more info and never call back it gets a little annoying. I'm not trying to steel I'm just trying to make a game so I have something to do this weekend.I did tell jason and mike two different things.I really don't want to play 1pkt, but If a respectable offer was made I would think about it. I want everyone to know that If jamie wants to play I will come , but he has to call me personally! not second hand or a text, just a phone call will do. As for other games I will play just call me and ask. It's real easy with me I don't want to bark or bad mouth anyone into a game.I just want to see who plays better(no b.s moves).Just get your money in the middle and find out.If I lose You'll get paid, If I win I expect the same.If I get calls confirming action by thursday I'm coming friday after work and will stay until monday or I'm busted,which ever comes first. I will not match up friday night (I'll be getting in late) saturday and sunday are open. My # is 847-226-4281 please call me...I'm bored:wink: Tom M.

Tom i got your message, since you will see this i will call you by Thurs afternoon for sure. Its looking like without Frost backing his guys you might be out of luck. He backs 3 of the better players in town. And i have no idea whats up with Jamie as he is not answering my phone call either, lol.
 

Cheessehead

AzB Silver Member
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action

Tom i got your message, since you will see this i will call you by Thurs afternoon for sure. Its looking like without Frost backing his guys you might be out of luck. He backs 3 of the better players in town. And i have no idea whats up with Jamie as he is not answering my phone call either, lol.

I think we both know why jamie isn't answering:wink: Honestly, I think jamie is the favorite playing me 9-ball,I would prefer 10-ball( not such a breaking contest) or 8-ball. I'm betting my own so I'm a little surprised people need a stakehorse for 500-1000 sets. Why don't people pool their money to play? I'm willing to play Mike A. but I would not want to play big table with him. but I'll play a set on both to be fair. As for jody,if he wants just 9-ball I'll have to decline:(. but if he would play a set of 8-ball then I would play him a set of nine ball.I like to gamble but I'm not trying to break your bank or mine. just trying to find out if I can handle the pressure.just for the record I've lost to jamie once and beaten him once(when he was drunk). And Mike bennet drilled me playing bartable 9-ball in wisconsin. So my track record shows I'm not exactly stealing from anyone.
 

pooljunkie75

Bruce Johnson
Silver Member
:happydance:
I would like to start out by saying Jeff and I are the farthest thing from road players or champions( for christ sake, he plays in the APA).I'm sure both of us can get spotted from Josh Johnson. Hell from what I hear Jamie drilled him. I have a free weekend to play pool, that's it, I"ve always worked and I have a wife, kids and a mortgage I can't afford. The second thing I want to ask is,If the only way to get action in des moines is to be from des moines thats fine, but when I call people and they say they'll call me with more info and never call back it gets a little annoying. I'm not trying to steel I'm just trying to make a game so I have something to do this weekend.I did tell jason and mike two different things.I really don't want to play 1pkt, but If a respectable offer was made I would think about it. I want everyone to know that If jamie wants to play I will come , but he has to call me personally! not second hand or a text, just a phone call will do. As for other games I will play just call me and ask. It's real easy with me I don't want to bark or bad mouth anyone into a game.I just want to see who plays better(no b.s moves).Just get your money in the middle and find out.If I lose You'll get paid, If I win I expect the same.If I get calls confirming action by thursday I'm coming friday after work and will stay until monday or I'm busted,which ever comes first. I will not match up friday night (I'll be getting in late) saturday and sunday are open. My # is 847-226-4281 please call me...I'm bored:wink: Tom M.


Tom, I commend you! That has to be one of the most respectable posts since this tread started. No B.S., no angles, just straight to the point. It's nice to see someone write something with no hidden adjenda or underminding undertones...:happydance: I hope you come to town. I enjoy watching you play.
 

ballndaside

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Sounds like fun...but I'm going to Vegas this weekend for the VNEA. Oh yeah, and unless you're bringing "The peoples elbow" to the table, don't even bother...:thumbup:

good luck kid hope to see u again in the pool hall oh yeah u never got your 20 back
 

mikeyfrost

Socially Aware
Silver Member
Team Barbaro
You have no idea how long i just laughed.


Frost, noone is ever going to say anything bad about you creating action. And without you the action for the most part will dry up again no doubt.

Im not sure what you are looking for, you want people to buy you ladies and send them to your house every night to please you and keep you happy ? Do you want to hear on a daily basis... YOU ARE THE BEST ! ! !

Listen im sorry you booked some losers, and im sorry you didnt rob the town like you thought would happen. I hope to see you putting some people back in action, because if you noticed you and your crew didnt have ANY problems getting a game when you were pumping out some money.

Plus apparently this whole deal has got some people wanting to play better pool and im all for that. I actually care about the pool scene around here.

K from this post on im going to be nice to you again, you are a cool guy who is obviously upset and in need of some space. Hope to see you soon.

-Jason.

OK Sparky you got me, bathe them and bring them to me. I'm cool with almost all the losers I booked, gambling is my main form of entertainment. It's just the nature of the beast. I like a good wager. Moral of the story is I'm cool right now, not down and out, just taking a hiatus. However I always seem to have to point several things out so here I go.

1) You guys are not gamblers. I am a gambler. I'm no nonsense, quick easy action to get. Let's get it on type of dude. I bet my own and I bet a lot. But like God, I giveth and I taketh away. You should realize it's not the defeats, there's a cooler factor as well. No logical gambler would keep throwing money into a game they keep losing, time to switch to plan b. After plan b works out, then you can try some more Plan a.

2) I'm a one man show. This means I don't have to ask or confer with anyone other than myself to make stuff happen. I only have to make 1 call and see if my player is up for it and if they are, game on. I'm the decision maker(not like Bush though). That makes me more flexible than a group of guys.

3) I have the stomach for this. I've said it before and I'll say it again I've lost more than 4 grand in a day...I'm really not sweating losing it over a week. Hell when I get paid that makes up most of the difference right there. The thing about it is you guys over value the impact you had on me. I'm still shoot 22 caliber bullets to feel the whole seen out, I haven't even begun to bet yet.

4) What goes up, must come down...it's physics. If you took a time out and thought logically for a minute you'd figure some things out and even if through pure speculation alone you'd know I'm just patiently waiting for something bigger.

5) From now on we will get exactly the games we want and there will be no compromise. We can do that because we are the bigger stick. There isn't much money to be won anyway...I can careless if I gamble or not. We do have casinos.

You used to be modest and kind of humble. Now you're the man. You won AZ Homecoming King or got voted Most Popular or something. This whole situation got silly and it truthfully makes me laugh. You get to be the bigger man and post that now but when I apologized 10 pages ago you didnt want to accept. Very bogus!
 

mikeyfrost

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Silver Member
I think we both know why jamie isn't answering:wink: Honestly, I think jamie is the favorite playing me 9-ball,I would prefer 10-ball( not such a breaking contest) or 8-ball. I'm betting my own so I'm a little surprised people need a stakehorse for 500-1000 sets. Why don't people pool their money to play? I'm willing to play Mike A. but I would not want to play big table with him. but I'll play a set on both to be fair. As for jody,if he wants just 9-ball I'll have to decline:(. but if he would play a set of 8-ball then I would play him a set of nine ball.I like to gamble but I'm not trying to break your bank or mine. just trying to find out if I can handle the pressure.just for the record I've lost to jamie once and beaten him once(when he was drunk). And Mike bennet drilled me playing bartable 9-ball in wisconsin. So my track record shows I'm not exactly stealing from anyone.

You bring up several good points. We talked about most of them. The thing I like is you said pool your money...thats a concept I doubt gets implemented here for anyone other than Jamie with the exception of Scott Frost if he needed it. It's amazing how you have to have the nuts to get a stake. If you were a chump and easy action you would have 10k worth of matches against you by now. People know you can match up even with most people so they dont wanna roll the dice any. It just shows a major lack of hometown pride. I didnt grow up here but you bet your bottom dollar if I did and someone wanted to call my hometown out I'd go all in if I had to.

Some mexicans from NY came to Fayetteville once and they brought the Mexican Champion Ignacio Chavez with them. Let's just say they wish to God they didn't stop in Fayetteville, because we put them guys all in until they stopped coming back.

I'm not even woofing right now, I actually think it's pretty sad. Tom is like Jamie just a different zip code. Is he better? Maybe but it costs to find out. The most sad part about it is this. Tom cant find any action, but if I say Phil wants to play even one pocket or Mike/Jody wanna play Jamie some more box 9 ball...the money would fall from the Heavens. You guys would line up for that, why cause you know you can win!

It's reasons like these why I can't put my money into the pot anymore. We'd rather take from our own then band together and bust non Des Moines players coming through. That alone says more than I ever could.
 

dogginda9

I need a vacation.
Silver Member
Heeeeeeeey.....cheap shot.

I would like to start out by saying Jeff and I are the farthest thing from road players or champions( for christ sake, he plays in the APA).I'm sure both of us can get spotted from Josh Johnson. Hell from what I hear Jamie drilled him. I have a free weekend to play pool, that's it, I"ve always worked and I have a wife, kids and a mortgage I can't afford. The second thing I want to ask is,If the only way to get action in des moines is to be from des moines thats fine, but when I call people and they say they'll call me with more info and never call back it gets a little annoying. I'm not trying to steel I'm just trying to make a game so I have something to do this weekend.I did tell jason and mike two different things.I really don't want to play 1pkt, but If a respectable offer was made I would think about it. I want everyone to know that If jamie wants to play I will come , but he has to call me personally! not second hand or a text, just a phone call will do. As for other games I will play just call me and ask. It's real easy with me I don't want to bark or bad mouth anyone into a game.I just want to see who plays better(no b.s moves).Just get your money in the middle and find out.If I lose You'll get paid, If I win I expect the same.If I get calls confirming action by thursday I'm coming friday after work and will stay until monday or I'm busted,which ever comes first. I will not match up friday night (I'll be getting in late) saturday and sunday are open. My # is 847-226-4281 please call me...I'm bored:wink: Tom M.

I:lovies: the APA. And for the record. Your no-playin' a$$ can only get there if we play for cheese fries at Outback...............
 

ykndoit

UnRegistered Abuser
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You bring up several good points. We talked about most of them. The thing I like is you said pool your money...thats a concept I doubt gets implemented here for anyone other than Jamie with the exception of Scott Frost if he needed it. It's amazing how you have to have the nuts to get a stake. If you were a chump and easy action you would have 10k worth of matches against you by now. People know you can match up even with most people so they dont wanna roll the dice any. It just shows a major lack of hometown pride. I didnt grow up here but you bet your bottom dollar if I did and someone wanted to call my hometown out I'd go all in if I had to.

Some mexicans from NY came to Fayetteville once and they brought the Mexican Champion Ignacio Chavez with them. Let's just say they wish to God they didn't stop in Fayetteville, because we put them guys all in until they stopped coming back.

I'm not even woofing right now, I actually think it's pretty sad. Tom is like Jamie just a different zip code. Is he better? Maybe but it costs to find out. The most sad part about it is this. Tom cant find any action, but if I say Phil wants to play even one pocket or Mike/Jody wanna play Jamie some more box 9 ball...the money would fall from the Heavens. You guys would line up for that, why cause you know you can win!

It's reasons like these why I can't put my money into the pot anymore. We'd rather take from our own then band together and bust non Des Moines players coming through. That alone says more than I ever could.

MIke, your missing the BIGGEST point of this whole thing.

DM has pride, but DM pool players aren't ignorant with their OWN hard earned money.

Ignorant definition in this sense.... playing heads up for $500-$1000 when they don't think for sure they have a shot at.
Dm pride in this sense....we like to talk junk, we like to back it up(as long as what we back it up with, we feel comfortable losing) The best advice you could ever give someone that is gambling.....ONLY GAMBLE WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE.

With that in mind, name me 2 or 3 top notch people in DM that can gamble even up with the two guys coming to town THAT CAN AFFORD TO LOSE $500-$1000.

Sorry, I can only think of one and he has real life commitments.


More later......later,later
 

mikeyfrost

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Silver Member
MIke, your missing the BIGGEST point of this whole thing.

DM has pride, but DM pool players aren't ignorant with their OWN hard earned money.

Ignorant definition in this sense.... playing heads up for $500-$1000 when they don't think for sure they have a shot at.
Dm pride in this sense....we like to talk junk, we like to back it up(as long as what we back it up with, we feel comfortable losing) The best advice you could ever give someone that is gambling.....ONLY GAMBLE WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE.

With that in mind, name me 2 or 3 top notch people in DM that can gamble even up with the two guys coming to town THAT CAN AFFORD TO LOSE $500-$1000.

Sorry, I can only think of one and he has real life commitments.


More later......later,later

It's not about going bust to prove a point, here's all I'm saying. We do have some guys here that could play these gentlemen some and not be complete underdogs. If 20 people put in $250 or so that's a $5k bankroll. It would be like, OK it's time to set our own rivalries aside and run these boys out of here. We doubt each other so no way would we do that type of thing. It's not that there is no money, there's just no money for this stuff.

If Jamie or Chance got in the box and people thought it was a lock there'd be a hell of a rail to cover. Sometimes you just have to show a little gamble is all. With that said I'm not betting a dime either way, just trying to gauge where the sense of community is in this place.
 

pooljunkie75

Bruce Johnson
Silver Member
If they do come to town, I'm good for some sweat bets. I don't care who plays! If I like the game and the players I will bet.....lock or not...lol
 
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