It Got The Best Of Me Tonight

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DrCue'sProtege

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28 breaks, and only one (1) chance to runout, and it was very difficult. had a stretch of about 7-8 racks where nothing went in. and of course, had the usual occur, that being having no chance at all several times, and a handful of spreads where i failed to get a shot by about 1/8" of an inch, which as always is very frustrating.

after about the 25th break, when the 4-Ball rolled up on the cue ball, thus giving me no shot by about 1/16 of an inch, i just flung the cue down on the table, and stood there and stared in disgust for a couple of minutes.

the next break, 2 balls went in, and had no shot. the next break nothing went down. the 28th, and last, break i made 3 balls, and i stood there and watched in disbelief as the 8-Ball rolled up at the last moment in between the cue ball and the 2-Ball.

at that point in time i just couldnt take it anymore. i actually knelt down and began to cry. yes, i cried. it finally got the best of me. i spend TONS and TONS and TONS of hours practicing, working on things, and these HORRIBLE spreads and rolls just continue to plague me.

after about 5 minutes of just sitting on the floor, asking The Lord why this always happens to me, i just put the cues away, shut the lights out, and gave up for the evening.

i'm not sure what my future in pool is now, or even if there is a future. maybe i should do like some recommend and take 2 weeks off, then quit. i just dont know what to do about getting these horrible rolls 98% of the time. i am at my wits end. giving up seems like its rapidly becoming the logical conclusion at this point in time.

DCP

p.s. no stupid, insulting replies, ok? i dont want to have to deal with them at this point in time either.
 
Dont give up mate,just keep practising.

Maybe its just ur unlucky day.

Regards...
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
28 breaks, and only one (1) chance to runout, and it was very difficult. had a stretch of about 7-8 racks where nothing went in. and of course, had the usual occur, that being having no chance at all several times, and a handful of spreads where i failed to get a shot by about 1/8" of an inch, which as always is very frustrating.

after about the 25th break, when the 4-Ball rolled up on the cue ball, thus giving me no shot by about 1/16 of an inch, i just flung the cue down on the table, and stood there and stared in disgust for a couple of minutes.

the next break, 2 balls went in, and had no shot. the next break nothing went down. the 28th, and last, break i made 3 balls, and i stood there and watched in disbelief as the 8-Ball rolled up at the last moment in between the cue ball and the 2-Ball.

at that point in time i just couldnt take it anymore. i actually knelt down and began to cry. yes, i cried. it finally got the best of me. i spend TONS and TONS and TONS of hours practicing, working on things, and these HORRIBLE spreads and rolls just continue to plague me.

after about 5 minutes of just sitting on the floor, asking The Lord why this always happens to me, i just put the cues away, shut the lights out, and gave up for the evening.

i'm not sure what my future in pool is now, or even if there is a future. maybe i should do like some recommend and take 2 weeks off, then quit. i just dont know what to do about getting these horrible rolls 98% of the time. i am at my wits end. giving up seems like its rapidly becoming the logical conclusion at this point in time.

DCP

p.s. no stupid, insulting replies, ok? i dont want to have to deal with them at this point in time either.
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Called rolls. It just happens. As long as you understand that there will be days they are going your way all is fine. Just keep an open mind and things will happen for you.
 
i am talking about the spread i get off of the break shot in 9-Ball. thats where all my horrible luck is.

yes, i have Capelle's book on A Mind For Pool.

DCP
 
I really don't understand what the point is of doing what you're doing. You are complaining about luck. No matter how much you practice the break, and how good you get at it, you can't control the luck factor. You can make your percentages higher, by controlling the cueball, and learning how to read a rack, but that's all you can do. The rest is out of your control. If you really want to improve your game, just break and take ball in hand and try to run out. You have been complaining about your luck off the break for years now. What I want to know is WHAT are you trying to accomplish? Good luck? Do you realize how silly that is? Are you squatting the cueball in the center of the table every break? Are you checking the rack to find out if you have a chance to make the wing ball or 1 in the side? You need to stop and reevaluate yourself, otherwise you are going to wind up breaking your stick over your head.
 
Tons'O'fun said:
IMHO - I'm a firm believer that "rolls" are what we use as an excuse to avoid really analyzing the reasons we didn't "get out".

Rolls are just the great distraction, and a total waste of time to factor into a win or a loss.

"Rolls" always balance out in the end, we all get them, but only because we all screw up from time to time. Not because the pool gods are angry at us.

You blame the rolls you have learned nothing.

Just my two cents.
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Rolls do happen, Tons. Favorable and unfavorable. I believe that some can get bad rolls, get discouraged and then begin shooting emotionally. Everything then becomes worse.

I recently played and the 9 went in on the break 2 times in a row followed by 3 easy 9 combos right off the bat and then followed by a 9 in the break again. 6 games in a row without doing a thing. This was not skill, just good rolls. Other times I would scratch off the break multiple times by a ball traveling around a table and then knocking a perfectly positioned cue ball into the pocket. Times like this I alter my break, but for those scratches, they were bad rolls.
 
Tons'O'fun said:
As for Capelle's book, if you read it you would understand that luck is for losers. There is no such thing as luck. We reap what we sow.

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How about luck happens, don't expect it.
 
Pool can't be mastered, only played. Find the joy that drew you to the game in the 1st place. 0.02
 
DCP, I feel for you, but it's truly hard to believe that your break and run percentage remains the only measure by which you gauge your progress. There is so much more to winning nine ball than the break and run. I reached A+ level without having a particularly good break. There is an enormous luck factor on the break shot in nine ball. How about taking ball in hand after the break and seeing how often you get out? I think you'd enjoy it more that way.
 
I'm just posting as a matter of encouragement. I really think it's the luck of the rolls on the break. However, you really need to consider why you play this game if it only saddens you to the point of crying. What is the reason you play at all if in the end of a session your in an unfortunate emotional state? Why would anyone do something intentionally that they know will cause them distress? Another book on the mental side of pool is called "The Pleasures of Small Motions." I'm sure lots of ya'll have heard of this book. It's easily found at Barnes and Noble or eBay. I hope you can find enjoyment in your game again. It would be a shame to quit because of one aspect of one game. Ever thought of trying some trick shots? When I need to calm down after a bunch of misses or bad rolls, I start practicing trick shots (Byrne's Treasury of Trick Shots). I don't know why but shotting them causes me to relax and come back to my game a little more focused. Plus they're just fun. Best of luck.
 
It seems as if your mind set is making these bad rolls to happen more than usual, the more bad things happen the more it bothers you and you start to think man not again or I knew that would happen. You start to believe bad things will happen and they will.

I tell you I have never meet a person who said they had good luck that didn't and I never meet a person who said they always have bad luck that didn't.

I know I have some of the best luck ever, when I play 8-ball people can't believe how often I make the 8 on the break and I almost always end up in great position, good things just always seem to happen for me, people say "you got lucky" and I say I know it's a skill:D

I am a firm believer in what you think, believe, or talk about is waht you get. Just be positive and now that you got all your bad rolls out of the way, it's smooth sailing and your next rolls we be good! So just put all the bad breaks behind you and only believe good rolls will happen and be shocked if it doesn't and eventually you'll be fine.
 
Fred said:
Pool can't be mastered, only played. Find the joy that drew you to the game in the 1st place. 0.02
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Thats a golf quote and a line out of the movie Bagger Vance.....

What did I win!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Protege,

I have always been in the same boat. Working on my 9ball break trying to find achieve the perfect break like the pro's.

And it wont happen, I have actually stopped breaking from the rail side on all tables cuz for some reason, it doesnt work for me.

So i break from the Box, And yes i get alot better break and can squat the rock close to the center of the table alot more often.

And yes i do get some bad rolls, from squatting the rock, from balls comming off the rail and kicking in the CB to a pocket or getting hooked, or whatever may happen.

i look at it this way, if your not making a ball on the break and hooking yourself, whats the big deal? expecially if its in a tournament your opponent isnt going to have a shot either.

In the 9ball league i played in, i had alot of problems trying to make balls on the break cuz i would break so hard, so alot of times i didnt make anything but i would also hook my opponent so he wouldnt have a shot either. So would i complain about my break then, nope, cuz its not hurting my chances of winning.

dave
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
28 breaks, and only one (1) chance to runout, and it was very difficult. had a stretch of about 7-8 racks where nothing went in. and of course, had the usual occur, that being having no chance at all several times, and a handful of spreads where i failed to get a shot by about 1/8" of an inch, which as always is very frustrating.

after about the 25th break, when the 4-Ball rolled up on the cue ball, thus giving me no shot by about 1/16 of an inch, i just flung the cue down on the table, and stood there and stared in disgust for a couple of minutes.

the next break, 2 balls went in, and had no shot. the next break nothing went down. the 28th, and last, break i made 3 balls, and i stood there and watched in disbelief as the 8-Ball rolled up at the last moment in between the cue ball and the 2-Ball.

at that point in time i just couldnt take it anymore. i actually knelt down and began to cry. yes, i cried. it finally got the best of me. i spend TONS and TONS and TONS of hours practicing, working on things, and these HORRIBLE spreads and rolls just continue to plague me.

after about 5 minutes of just sitting on the floor, asking The Lord why this always happens to me, i just put the cues away, shut the lights out, and gave up for the evening.

i'm not sure what my future in pool is now, or even if there is a future. maybe i should do like some recommend and take 2 weeks off, then quit. i just dont know what to do about getting these horrible rolls 98% of the time. i am at my wits end. giving up seems like its rapidly becoming the logical conclusion at this point in time.

DCP

p.s. no stupid, insulting replies, ok? i dont want to have to deal with them at this point in time either.
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dude..........break 25 racks tomorrow and put every layout after the break on the wei table..........

i wanna see what layouts you are getting..........

even the worst breaker in the world would get more than 1 runable rack in 28 breaks.

VAP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
28 breaks, and only one (1) chance to runout, and it was very difficult. had a stretch of about 7-8 racks where nothing went in. and of course, had the usual occur, that being having no chance at all several times, and a handful of spreads where i failed to get a shot by about 1/8" of an inch, which as always is very frustrating.

after about the 25th break, when the 4-Ball rolled up on the cue ball, thus giving me no shot by about 1/16 of an inch, i just flung the cue down on the table, and stood there and stared in disgust for a couple of minutes.

the next break, 2 balls went in, and had no shot. the next break nothing went down. the 28th, and last, break i made 3 balls, and i stood there and watched in disbelief as the 8-Ball rolled up at the last moment in between the cue ball and the 2-Ball.

at that point in time i just couldnt take it anymore. i actually knelt down and began to cry. yes, i cried. it finally got the best of me. i spend TONS and TONS and TONS of hours practicing, working on things, and these HORRIBLE spreads and rolls just continue to plague me.

after about 5 minutes of just sitting on the floor, asking The Lord why this always happens to me, i just put the cues away, shut the lights out, and gave up for the evening.

i'm not sure what my future in pool is now, or even if there is a future. maybe i should do like some recommend and take 2 weeks off, then quit. i just dont know what to do about getting these horrible rolls 98% of the time. i am at my wits end. giving up seems like its rapidly becoming the logical conclusion at this point in time.

DCP

p.s. no stupid, insulting replies, ok? i dont want to have to deal with them at this point in time either.
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If you can't beat the ghost with ball in hand, you are practicing in an inefficient way, imho. Where is the 9-ball after you break? If it's a good rack, it should still be in the diamond area, actually in the same spot, provided it wasn't kicked out. If it comes out it's always a bad rack. With a perfect rack the inside corner ball is always dead in the corner when breaking from just off the side rail straight into the one ball.

unknownpro
 
BRKNRUN said:
Thats a golf quote and a line out of the movie Bagger Vance.....

What did I win!!!!!!!!!!!
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The free cue that came with my pool table. Send me your address and $30 shipping and I'll get her in the mail. Congrats!!
 
Suggestion ...

You talk about rolls, every roll from your break could be
explained mathematically. It is cause and effect. When
you hit a shot 'wrong' and end up behind a ball snookered
from your next, it is because you didn't do something right,
not because of the roll.

Something that I found useful when I was first learning, and
everything seemed to go wrong. I would play 'opposite english'.
If I thought to shoot a shot with low right english, then I would
switch and play left upper english instead. You might be surprised
how well it can work sometimes, and it gives you insight into
what you were doing wrong to begin with. Try it for a night,
and see what results you get.
 
Fred said:
Pool can't be mastered, only played. Find the joy that drew you to the game in the 1st place. 0.02
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I like Freds answer here. Go back to the simple pleasures that brought you into the game to begin with. Remember how you felt the first time you acheived critical position time and again the way the balls were meant to roll. And how any down time from a pool table you couldnt wait to get back to it.
 
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