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James2003

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OK so I am not going to get the standard Aramith balls.

I am going to get the Brunswick Centennial or the Aramith Super Pro balls.

Is one better then the other in quality? If there the same and only difference is the looks then I'm going with the Brunswick.

I read where the Aramith is the only ball made from genuine phenolic resin.

Brunswick says Made with premium-grade Phenolic resin.

So is that the same as Aramith? There made by the same company I know just want to know which one is really better if any. I do like the Brunswicks better because I like the stripes to NOT have the number in the stripe. Plus they have the darts.. :grin:
 
As far as I can tell they are the same. They are all Aramith balls and from what I have read the only difference is the possible variances in size for given set. If I'm wrong, I'd like to know the differences as well. I bought the Centennials because I like the "dart" on the balls.
 
NewStroke said:
As far as I can tell they are the same. They are all Aramith balls and from what I have read the only difference is the possible variances in size for given set. If I'm wrong, I'd like to know the differences as well. I bought the Centennials because I like the "dart" on the balls.
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That's what I seem to be reading but I can not find a good discription on the Brunswick..
 
I think Brunswick does not use the word Aramith because it's owned by Saluc. At the same time, Saluc makes Brunswick balls.
 
Your last thread on this topic seemed to have all the information you would need to make a decision. But no harm in repetition, I guess.

Here's something I posted in 2008:

Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls are generally considered to be the finest balls made today. They are both made by the Saluc company in Belgium from the same phenolic resin. I believe they are also made to the same tolerances, with the difference being in the design of the numbers. (The Centennial balls have the well known "dart" design.) The other major difference is price. The Centennials cost considerably more, perhaps because the number design is more expensive to manufacture, perhaps because Brunswick is an expensive middleman.​

And here's something I posted three days ago in your previous thread:

There is a new kid on the block when it comes to top-quality pool balls -- Aramith Tournament balls from the Saluc company of Belgium (same company that makes Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls).

Saluc claims that the Aramith Tournament balls are made from a new, fourth generation of Aramith phenolic resin. They call it the Duramith resin formulation and claim enhanced service life (by up to 50%) and reduced table-cloth wear.

It will be interesting to see whether these balls gain a foothold in commercial, residential, and professional tournament use. I'm eager to learn whether professionals like them more or less than the other top balls, or whether they detect any playing difference at all.

If the new resin really is an improvement, it is possible that these balls could ultimately replace the Super Pro's and also become the resin used for a new generation of Centennials. Or, the new line could just fizzle. We'll see.​

Any one of the three sets mentioned here would provide top-notch service for a long, long time.
 
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There are Aramith Tournament balls that are supposed to be the best balls made. Neilsens on E-bay has them for around 200. I bought a set of those.
 
AtLarge said:
Your last thread on this topic seemed to have all the information you would need to make a decision. But no harm in repetition, I guess.

Here's something I posted in 2008:

Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls are generally considered to be the finest balls made today. They are both made by the Saluc company in Belgium from the same phenolic resin. I believe they are also made to the same tolerances, with the difference being in the design of the numbers. (The Centennial balls have the well known "dart" design.) The other major difference is price. The Centennials cost considerably more, perhaps because the number design is more expensive to manufacture, perhaps because Brunswick is an expensive middleman.​

And here's something I posted three days ago in your previous thread:

There is a new kid on the block when it comes to top-quality pool balls -- Aramith Tournament balls from the Saluc company of Belgium (same company that makes Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls).

Saluc claims that the Aramith Tournament balls are made from a new, fourth generation of Aramith phenolic resin. They call it the Duramith resin formulation and claim enhanced service life (by up to 50%) and reduced table-cloth wear.

It will be interesting to see whether these balls gain a foothold in commercial, residential, and professional tournament use. I'm eager to learn whether professionals like them more or less than the other top balls, or whether they detect any playing difference at all.

If the new resin really is an improvement, it is possible that these balls could ultimately replace the Super Pro's and also become the resin used for a new generation of Centennials. Or, the new line could just fizzle. We'll see.​

Any one of the three sets mentioned here would serve top-notch service for a long, long time.
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Well the other thread was about the lower end Aramith vs the Bruns or the Aramith pro. The reason for asking again was because I am now only asking about these two.

I read one review where one wrote that they thought the Aramith had a more action off the brake than the Brunswick. I dunno maybe it was becuase the different cue ball being used.

I did see the new Aramith Tournament balls. I also wonder if there that much better..
 
James,

This has been discussed before and it would appear that more people prefer the Centennials, either because they think they perform better or they like the looks better.

Having said that, I would not worry about any actual difference between them because I don't think there is any. Perhaps this best evidence of this is straight from the Saluc Company (maker of Aramith balls) website. This is on the "About Saluc" page in the section titled "A WHOLE RANGE WITH THE TIGHTEST SPECIFICATIONS." The last paragraph reads (it would appear someone needs to proofread their website :wink:):

"As the top of the line, the Super Aramith PRO set distinguishes itself by its beautiful design and numbers and the maximized in-depth vitrification of its More importantly, it is a fully matched professional set, where precise calibration of each ball guarantees maximum consistency within the set. The Super Aramith PRO also exists in the Centennial design produced for Brunswick."

They could of course be lying, but I'm gonna guess the above statement is probably true.

Here's the link to the above excerpt from the Saluc website: http://www.saluc.com/html/about-saluc.php

So, if I were you and you like the looks of the Centennials better and are willing to spend whatever they are gonna cost you, then buy them. If you like the S Aramith P's better or want to save a little money, then get them instead. But given the evidence, I wouldn't buy the Centennials on the basis that they are somehow better/different, and I wouldn't go with the Super Pros because someone said they are better either.
 
On a side note, I was able to get my Centennials for about $185 at Muellers. I was able to get an additional 20% off with a coupon. This may sound odd, but those balls make my mouth water. :grin:
 
I only wanted the brunswicks because I like the looks of them over the Aramith (number placement on the stripes)

I can get a set of Centennials for $202 and change shipped to me. The S Aramith P wold be about $40 less. I'm willing to spend the extra $50 to get what I consider a better looking ball. Provided there the same quality. (which there site says they are)

Thanks



DogsPlayingPool said:
James,

This has been discussed before and it would appear that more people prefer the Centennials, either because they think they perform better or they like the looks better.

Having said that, I would not worry about any actual difference between them because I don't think there is any. Perhaps this best evidence of this is straight from the Saluc Company (maker of Aramith balls) website. This is on the "About Saluc" page in the section titled "A WHOLE RANGE WITH THE TIGHTEST SPECIFICATIONS." The last paragraph reads (it would appear someone needs to proofread their website :wink:):

"As the top of the line, the Super Aramith PRO set distinguishes itself by its beautiful design and numbers and the maximized in-depth vitrification of its More importantly, it is a fully matched professional set, where precise calibration of each ball guarantees maximum consistency within the set. The Super Aramith PRO also exists in the Centennial design produced for Brunswick."

They could of course be lying, but I'm gonna guess the above statement is probably true.

Here's the link to the above excerpt from the Saluc website: http://www.saluc.com/html/about-saluc.php

So, if I were you and you like the looks of the Centennials better and are willing to spend whatever they are gonna cost you, then buy them. If you like the S Aramith P's better or want to save a little money, then get them instead. But given the evidence, I wouldn't buy the Centennials on the basis that they are somehow better/different, and I wouldn't go with the Super Pros because someone said they are better either.
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James,

You may also want to talk to Mike at Seybert's, he will try to work with you as well. Be clear on what you want and I am sure he will hook you up.

Thanks

Dan
 
James2003 said:
I only wanted the brunswicks because I like the looks of them over the Aramith (number placement on the stripes)

I can get a set of Centennials for $202 and change shipped to me. The S Aramith P wold be about $40 less. I'm willing to spend the extra $50 to get what I consider a better looking ball. Provided there the same quality. (which there site says they are)

Thanks
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That's what I did, I just like the looks of the Centennials better and after finding the best price I could they weren't that much more the the S-P's.
 
NewStroke said:
On a side note, I was able to get my Centennials for about $185 at Muellers. I was able to get an additional 20% off with a coupon. This may sound odd, but those balls make my mouth water. :grin:
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I just looked at there site there $234 now. But if I can get a coupon code for 20% they would be less than $200

Plus I need to PM a member back says he has a new set of Brunswicks and the price is RIGHT... If he is willing to wait a week or so for the funds I'll get em.
 
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Don't be afraid to talk to these guys either, the posted price is not always the price you have to pay.
 
I own both. They are both top of the line and from what I have noticed are the same. I prefer the Cents as they are the "classic' design. I would also get a measle ball and another ball to use as a designated break ball. The cb takes a beating from the break. The scuffs also will transfer to the other balls. I may be anal but I paid for them and like to keep my equipment nice. I also use a break cloth that some have criticized me for but now I see some ph using it also.
 
TheBook said:
I own both. They are both top of the line and from what I have noticed are the same. I prefer the Cents as they are the "classic' design. I would also get a measle ball and another ball to use as a designated break ball. The cb takes a beating from the break. The scuffs also will transfer to the other balls. I may be anal but I paid for them and like to keep my equipment nice. I also use a break cloth that some have criticized me for but now I see some ph using it also.
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That's hardly anal. I only play with my Centennials when I am alone or with other players. My kids and occasional visitors play with my "commom" balls.
 
NewStroke said:
That's hardly anal. I only play with my Centennials when I am alone or with other players. My kids and occasional visitors play with my "commom" balls.
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That's not a bad Idea to get another set for my son and wife to use since they really don't know how to play.

K mart here I come.. LMAO OK OK not that cheap of a set.
 
TheBook said:
I own both. They are both top of the line and from what I have noticed are the same. I prefer the Cents as they are the "classic' design. I would also get a measle ball and another ball to use as a designated break ball. The cb takes a beating from the break. The scuffs also will transfer to the other balls. I may be anal but I paid for them and like to keep my equipment nice. I also use a break cloth that some have criticized me for but now I see some ph using it also.
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I can relate to all of this. Except the two extra cue balls? The set comes with one so why the need for two more? (the measle ball and another to brake with)
 
Aramith "tournament" so they found a cheaper resin mix and are marketing it to be the new Honey Hive?
that Measle ball is expensive otherwise id use one. about $40 in the retailers around here i wouldnt want to bang it up either for that price...id pay $20 for one but not any more than that.
 
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