Thanks. I'm going to try to enter more tournaments. I really like 8 ball but all around is just 9ball. Any one know of in house 8 ball tournies?? i don't have a ride so it would have to be in the gta area.
Sandbaggin thief !!!
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Thanks. I'm going to try to enter more tournaments. I really like 8 ball but all around is just 9ball. Any one know of in house 8 ball tournies?? i don't have a ride so it would have to be in the gta area.
Please read my first posting. I don't think you read it.
well first of all, i wasnt even addressing u which is why it doesnt refer to ur post. second of all, i was addressing the other posts where guys were saying he had 3-6 chances per rack. and like i said IF it's true that he had that many chances, there is nothing to complain about.
u said "I broke dry,he shot a few shots and missed and then I ran out. I broke dry again and he ran the table. he broke dry and i ran the table. then I broke and ran all the way to the 8 ball where I had to bank it and missed it. He potted 4 balls and then purposely missed a ball. I tried a shot in the corner where i had to pot his ball in and the 8 bobble in the pocket and he ran the last 2 balls and then the 8."
so basically u missed a bank on ur game ball cuz u screwed up position on it. then in ur next inning u rattled the 8 and left it over a hole when he had 2 balls left on the table. what is there to complain about? u had 2 shots at ur game ball. the first one u missed cuz u made it hard on urself, instead of punishing u and running an open table he let u back in and u rattled the 8 ball AFTER u helped him out by potting one of his balls and leaving the 8 over the pocket. if he doesnt win that game he should be a 1.
the only time in ur story where he did anything worth mentioning was when he ran out after u broke dry. but if its an open table i dont see whats so special about that. clearly a 3 can still pot balls, and in 8 ball if u can pot balls u can run out. in poolhalls i've seen guys that cant hold a cue steady run out a rack in 8 ball. not often, but i've seen it happen. but matt obviously knows how to hold a cue so whats so special about him running out an open 8 ball rack? if it was a rotation rack then i can understand ur argument but this is 8 ball.
the rest of ur post was nothing to respond to since it was just an anecdote about how u heard other players complaining. doesnt tell me anything about his actual game. so what else did i miss?
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I took that list from George via the facebook event page, I heard there were 38 players so some on that list didnt show up.
Who are you?
Who are you? I would not be surprised if this was actually Matt.
rightoncue1938
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matt wagner-with 3 handicap lol
I was at the tournament that matt was at. I find it interesting that some of the comments say the higher ranks should have shot better. It is very interesting how people will side with a sand bagger . If someone comes in as a three ; he only has to win two games. I been playing long enough to know
matt was not playing like a three. At one point there were at least a dozen
people watching his game and his game was not that of a three. Yes people can have good and bad games even in the high ranks. But for a three to beat
the number of players he did and the caliber there is something really wrong.
I do not know any three in cpa or tap that could do what he did or even come close. Yes a three can beat a high rank but not that many and the way it was done.(even most fours are not playing at the level he was playing. It is
a sad time for pool when things like this happen and it puts a bad taste in people's mouth about the tournament
People should have to show ID and prove their ranking. We can all see what word of mouth does. Well Matt only you know the truth. I think maybe the next time you come to toronto the players can boycott you and refuse to play you and see how far you get then
I was at the tournament that matt was at. I find it interesting that some of the comments say the higher ranks should have shot better. It is very interesting how people will side with a sand bagger . If someone comes in as a three ; he only has to win two games. I been playing long enough to know
matt was not playing like a three. At one point there were at least a dozen
people watching his game and his game was not that of a three. Yes people can have good and bad games even in the high ranks. But for a three to beat
the number of players he did and the caliber there is something really wrong.
I do not know any three in cpa or tap that could do what he did or even come close. Yes a three can beat a high rank but not that many and the way it was done.(even most fours are not playing at the level he was playing. It is
a sad time for pool when things like this happen and it puts a bad taste in people's mouth about the tournament
People should have to show ID and prove their ranking. We can all see what word of mouth does. Well Matt only you know the truth. I think maybe the next time you come to toronto the players can boycott you and refuse to play you and see how far you get then
I tried to break out the 8 ball that was in a cluster. what I was left with was a 2 banker. Anyways I played my the best that I could against all my opponents and i'm happy enough with that.
When you see this many complaining, I tend to believe someone may have been too low. If the high is a 7 then a 3 shouldn't be able to run more than a few balls. Sounds like this guy ran a few racks during the event.
I think the ball got dropped by the TD, can't blame the shooter! For $1000+, I'm a 2 and travelling up for the next event
I use to play a handicap event in Bangor that had a horrible TD. He would up you mid match. I started as a 6 and beat an 8 hills. I got bumped to a 7 next match. I beat a 9 cause he missed tons of balls, they moved me to an 8. I was 4-4 with another 8 and they came over and told me I'm going to 9 maybe 10. I was like ??? it is tied, what the hell? I guess the guy was a really strong 8 or some damn thing. They kept me at 8 cause I told them to give my money back... now, my next time down they put me in at a 9. I had a 5 run a 4 pack against me! They didn't move him!
I think the ball got dropped by the TD, can't blame the shooter! For $1000+, I'm a 2 and travelling up for the next event
I use to play a handicap event in Bangor that had a horrible TD. He would up you mid match. I started as a 6 and beat an 8 hills. I got bumped to a 7 next match. I beat a 9 cause he missed tons of balls, they moved me to an 8. I was 4-4 with another 8 and they came over and told me I'm going to 9 maybe 10. I was like ??? it is tied, what the hell? I guess the guy was a really strong 8 or some damn thing. They kept me at 8 cause I told them to give my money back... now, my next time down they put me in at a 9. I had a 5 run a 4 pack against me! They didn't move him!
Straight from the CPA website
http://cpasouthont.com/about_us/team_roster.asp?teamno=40001
oops sorry I guesse you would have to be logged in but it does say that his Handicap is a 5. It also list him as a 6 in 9ball.
http://cpasouthont.com/about_us/team_roster.asp?teamno=40001
oops sorry I guesse you would have to be logged in but it does say that his Handicap is a 5. It also list him as a 6 in 9ball.
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We have some 8 Ball tournies coming up here in Peterborough, I can post them when they come up. In regards to giving you a hard time, I guess I took it to far, but everybody is really riding my friend Matt on this.
chokeacola
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Yess busted !
OOOOOO MATT IT'S OOOON NOW BOY !!!! LOL U JUST GOT EXXXPOOOSED BOY !!!! U REALLY IS A 5 AND A 6 IN 9 BALL !!! CAN'T HIDE NO MO MUTHA@#$A !!! I REST MY CASE !!! HAAAAA LMFAO....:yikes:
OOOOOO MATT IT'S OOOON NOW BOY !!!! LOL U JUST GOT EXXXPOOOSED BOY !!!! U REALLY IS A 5 AND A 6 IN 9 BALL !!! CAN'T HIDE NO MO MUTHA@#$A !!! I REST MY CASE !!! HAAAAA LMFAO....:yikes:
I guess he is a 5, my bad. Still the 6's and 7's in my opinion were not playing well, Matt probably still would of won the tourney as a 5.
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This guy is GOOD!
If it was your friend, you probably already knew he was a 5.
You'll never know if he WOULD have won because he played as a 3.
rightoncue1938
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matt exposed
well it shows cheaters will get caught. All the info about him will now
be known by all cpa players and tap players. And he calls him self a pool player. Well with his picture and the real facts, people will never trust this guy. again. I personally would ban him from all tournaments for that stunt.
lie about ranking; get money; run. this will be great news for matt's cpa
team . They can have the attention of a liar and cheat on their team
Matt you will now feel the pressure of all pool members who have your number now.
well it shows cheaters will get caught. All the info about him will now
be known by all cpa players and tap players. And he calls him self a pool player. Well with his picture and the real facts, people will never trust this guy. again. I personally would ban him from all tournaments for that stunt.
lie about ranking; get money; run. this will be great news for matt's cpa
team . They can have the attention of a liar and cheat on their team
Matt you will now feel the pressure of all pool members who have your number now.
If Matt really is a 5, which looks like it. He should be banned from all CPA events and maybe other handicap tournaments. That shit right there is pure Bull shit!! 
If this douche ever entered a 404 and I was there, I would tell the TD to tell him to go **** himself.
If this douche ever entered a 404 and I was there, I would tell the TD to tell him to go **** himself.
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You are probably right that Matt would fair well even as a 5, but not because the 6's and 7's were all shooting like crap but because Matt brings a good game. If Matt was a 6 and I lost to him 4-0 I would not even complain about it. I would have enjoyed playing against him and enjoyed the good pool. That's the kind of guy I am. I love watching and playing good pool.It's just too bad that he did not have any confidence in himself and his playing capability. Now he has been branded.
the SOB MATT WAGAR
you Peterborough guys should be ashamed of yourself...
one of Matts peeps came up to me...
"oh Matt doesnt play like this on Thursday nights"... give me a break...
any knowledgeable pool player knows that Matt was not a 3.... he plays at the very min a 5... i watch a couple of his matches...
-he kicks at balls (pretty good)
-he position he cue ball
-he knows how to bank
-he know how to play safe
-he knows how to play 2 way shots (misses and leaves opponent bad)
-he recognizes patterns on how to run out by breaking up balls.
WTF... if that is a 3... then i am a 3 too.
CONGRATS you P.O.S. haha you pulled a fast one
i dont sweat it if you are 1 S/L below your true ability but if you are more than 2 Skill levels... you are a low life worm.
below link to matts facebook page...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...320081&ref=search&sid=879460367.4228327391..1
just remember... what comes around, goes around.
you Peterborough guys should be ashamed of yourself...
one of Matts peeps came up to me...
"oh Matt doesnt play like this on Thursday nights"... give me a break...
any knowledgeable pool player knows that Matt was not a 3.... he plays at the very min a 5... i watch a couple of his matches...
-he kicks at balls (pretty good)
-he position he cue ball
-he knows how to bank
-he know how to play safe
-he knows how to play 2 way shots (misses and leaves opponent bad)
-he recognizes patterns on how to run out by breaking up balls.
WTF... if that is a 3... then i am a 3 too.
CONGRATS you P.O.S. haha you pulled a fast one
i dont sweat it if you are 1 S/L below your true ability but if you are more than 2 Skill levels... you are a low life worm.
below link to matts facebook page...
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...320081&ref=search&sid=879460367.4228327391..1
just remember... what comes around, goes around.
Matt Wagar is LIAR and so are his Peterborough friends....Michael Gallacher and Chris Timmins.... Matt is on Mike and Chris's team... knowing that Matt was an S/L 5 and watched him entered tournament as an S/L3... thats lying and cheating.
Happy new year ...
Happy new year ...
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So...you're threatening someone for winning some nit tournament as a 3???
Nearly everyone in the pool world has done this--- prob you included. I hope you don't push someone down a flight of stairs for winning a nitty event.
If you wanna prevent that stuff from happening....have everyone play each other with no handicap. Then, the BEST player wins the NITTY event.
I agree get his facebook down, thats just below the belt. I dont know why its such a huge deal, I play out of peterborough and dont even know this guy, He's def not upper echelon of the peterborough players, sounds like it was more of the TD's fault.
Now if he was one of the better players and got in as a 3 thats a diff story.....
Now if he was one of the better players and got in as a 3 thats a diff story.....