Finding Stacked Leather wrap ?

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So I am looking of switching from Irish Linen wrap to a Stacked Leather wrap and am having a hard time finding a reputable person/company. Somebody once suggested Tiger something awhile ago but i no longer remember. So I am looking for some names that could help. Also any extra comments good or bad on what stacked leather wraps. Thanks in advance...
 
Tiger Products or Ryan Thweeten- ratcues on here. If you scroll thru his posts, you'll see examples of his work.
 
Think Steve Lomax is regarded as one of the best in the country... He's in Cornelia Georgia... Phone 706-776-1252 or 706-499-0803....
 
Doesn't Tiger make stack or at least sell stack wraps. At Valley Forge at the Tiger booth is where I have always seen a man installing stack wraps.
A friend of mine had a stack wrap put on his cue. He ruined it by trying to clean it. Stack replaced it for free. Very nice of them.
 
mike gulyassy does one of the best staked wraps i have ever played with check him out at babysproshop.com you can get his number off the website.
 
It was late/early, but I should've taken the time to check your name Ryan, sorry.
Search Ryan Theewen's posts- you'll see many fine examples of stack wraps. His AZ name is ratcues. (You'll also see some pretty neat "in progress" pics of cue repairs.)
 
It was late/early, but I should've taken the time to check your name Ryan, sorry.
Search Ryan Theewen's posts- you'll see many fine examples of stack wraps. His AZ name is ratcues. (You'll also see some pretty neat "in progress" pics of cue repairs.)

Not a big deal. I get called a lot worse.....by my wife.
 
So I am looking of switching from Irish Linen wrap to a Stacked Leather wrap and am having a hard time finding a reputable person/company. Somebody once suggested Tiger something awhile ago but i no longer remember. So I am looking for some names that could help. Also any extra comments good or bad on what stacked leather wraps. Thanks in advance...

Ryan at Ratcues has great prices and does excellent work.

Be careful what patterns you choose. I prefer straight black because it doesn't take away from the cue esthetics. Send it back for a re-sealing every year or two. Mine has lasted under heavy use for many years now.

Chris
 
" Doesn't Tiger make stack or at least sell stack wraps. At Valley Forge at the Tiger booth is where I have always seen a man installing stack wraps.
A friend of mine had a stack wrap put on his cue. He ruined it by trying to clean it. Stack replaced it for free. Very nice of them.
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What did he do when he cleaned it to ruin it ?


"Send it back for a re-sealing every year or two. Mine has lasted under heavy use for many years now."

How necessary is it to reseal it(what would happen) ?
 
" Doesn't Tiger make stack or at least sell stack wraps. At Valley Forge at the Tiger booth is where I have always seen a man installing stack wraps.
A friend of mine had a stack wrap put on his cue. He ruined it by trying to clean it. Stack replaced it for free. Very nice of them.
"

What did he do when he cleaned it to ruin it ?


"Send it back for a re-sealing every year or two. Mine has lasted under heavy use for many years now."

How necessary is it to reseal it(what would happen) ?

On the re-sealing issue - the sealing coat puts a shiny finish on the leather and protects it from absorbing moisture. As the wrap gets used, the leather will dull in some places. I think I've had mine 5 years and had it resealed twice - and it's still in perfect condition.

Stack wrap is made by wrapping thin leather strips tightly around the handle. It's burnished (pressed) and sealed. I've heard of some wraps curling up from moisture or improper sealing. I think Tiger charged me $20 for re-sealing - so it's no big deal, has a little more tack and looks like new when I get it back.

I really like the playing characteristics of stack wrap - which is why I use it. It's a little too tacky at first, then smooths out as you use it. It feels like a wrapless cue - very firm - but is warmer to the touch and less tacky than an unwrapped cue with a urethane finish. You can easily slide your hand on the wrap to get the right grip. It's a great wrap!

Pic of mine is below.

Chris
 

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Stack Wrap Weight

I have a question.

Has anyone weighed their cue before and after installing a stack leather wrap? The reason i'm asking is a cue dealer I used to talk with now and then told me he had a stack wrap installed on a cue and the weight of the cue went up by over a .5 oz. I don't know if this is true or not.......

James
 
This is absolutely true. They add measurable weight to the cue - at least vs linen.
 
This is absolutely true. They add measurable weight to the cue - at least vs linen.

I checked into this and please correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't very true. Because you switch from linen to the leather, you have to shave down the butt a little where the linen was to make up for the extra room the leather is going to replace to smooth it all out. Hence you loose weight in the shave down to be made back up in the heavier wrap. Again, I don't have the wrap yet, just what I was informed of when I asked this question before hand.
 
There is no need to modify the wrap channel on the cue to install a stack wrap. If someone does, they are doing it wrong.

I also have to disagree. There may be a few grams difference between linen and stack leather but not enough to feel.
 
I would contact Paul Sumrall of S&S cues. Sonofthunder here on AZB.
He did a stack wrap for me and did a very nice job. Price was very reasonable.
 
There is no need to modify the wrap channel on the cue to install a stack wrap. If someone does, they are doing it wrong.

I also have to disagree. There may be a few grams difference between linen and stack leather but not enough to feel.

Ryan,

In fact, do you ever have to build up the wrap channel? If you do, what do you use?

When my cue came back the stack was perfectly flush with the cue surface - which I find ideal. Since it's so firmly pressed, my assumption was that Tiger built the wrap channel up a little. There was no weight difference but it had a thin leather one piece embossed wrap before.

Chris
 
In fact, do you ever have to build up the wrap channel? If you do, what do you use?

Very rarely. The stack leather is about .060" thick whereas the undercut is .023-.025 for linen. (That measurement is off the radius, not circumference.) I sometimes have to build up the wrap channel for regular leather or linen and I typically use epoxy. Its light and dries fast. I used to use Bondo but it is heavier and more difficult to work with. It smells bad and chews up my cutters.
 
ratcues Stack wraps

Since I butchered Ryan's name, I felt I should post some photos of his work that I found in some old threads. Pretty cool how he's matching the colors to inlays, woods, etc:
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