Laminated Shaft Blanks

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Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the Atlas 8 piece radially laminated shaft blanks, the pioneer 10 piece radially laminated shaft blanks, and the laminated shaft blanks sold by Chris Hightower? Would there be a difference in stiffness between the two, and if so, would it be enough to even notice? I noticed on Atlas.com they mention that a "more aggressive taper can be used". I am thinking about buying one for a custom that my cuemaker is making. I know there is more to these shafts other than them being "laminated" that cause them to be lower deflection than normal, but was also curious if any cuemakers have a preference on which one of these they use. Thanks everyone for your comments.:grin:
 
Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone had any information on the Atlas 8 piece radially laminated shaft blanks, the pioneer 10 piece radially laminated shaft blanks, and the laminated shaft blanks sold by Chris Hightower? Would there be a difference in stiffness between the two, and if so, would it be enough to even notice? I noticed on Atlas.com they mention that a "more aggressive taper can be used". I am thinking about buying one for a custom that my cuemaker is making. I know there is more to these shafts other than them being "laminated" that cause them to be lower deflection than normal, but was also curious if any cuemakers have a preference on which one of these they use. Thanks everyone for your comments.:grin:

I believe there is a big misconception amongst many players and some builders that a laminated shaft has any correlation to a low squirt/deflection shaft. Many suppliers seem to be preying on this misconception. A shaft blank, either laminated or solid, can have additional steps done to it to make it either deflect either less or even more than any other shaft but just because it is laminated has no positive affect

Dick
 
do the laminated blanks serve a purpose other than looks? I am really curious about this subject. I like a stiff shaft for my cues. I know there are steps to lower the amount of deflection in a shaft, but does the lamination at least increase stiffness?
 
a spliced shaft blank will prob play stiffer and possibly be less prone to warpage. the whole LD thing is another method
 
I think radial laminated shafts are more consistant in their flex (side to side, up or down) regardless of how they are turned in the shooter hand. JMHO
 
I believe that the lamiminated shafts are stiffer in general and therefore can be machined to a slightly small diameter. The predator shafts that I have repaired seemed to be a bit lighter in the front end due to the drilling out of a pilot hole for about the first 8 to 10 inches and a lighter thin walled ferrule. I think that you can take a dense, high ring count, stiff maple shaft and achieve a similar hit and weight balance with a thin walled, uncapped ferrule. I have done this and really cant tell much of a difference. I believe there are alot of factors involed in a less deflective shaft. It doesnt have to be laminated just designed with the least amount of hard hitting components ie ferrule, joint, tip ect. I spoke to a good player recently from Milwaukee and he said that if you didnt have a predator shaft, you werent a player. Well, he should view a few of the videos of the pool greats in the past who never heard of a laminated shaft. Also watch Efren Reyes. Nuff said.
 
do the laminated blanks serve a purpose other than looks? I am really curious about this subject. I like a stiff shaft for my cues. I know there are steps to lower the amount of deflection in a shaft, but does the lamination at least increase stiffness?

Yes, very much so. The primary advantage to a radially pie spliced shaft is that no matter how the shaft is rotated it will hit & deflect similarly to any other position in rotation. As stated, the construction will also resist warpage.
 
As a general rule the pie laminated shafts are a little stiffer than regular shafts. And the flat laminated shafts are a little stiffer than the pie laminated shafts.
 
do the laminated blanks serve a purpose other than looks? I am really curious about this subject. I like a stiff shaft for my cues. I know there are steps to lower the amount of deflection in a shaft, but does the lamination at least increase stiffness?

As a cuemaker, whether pie shaped or flat laminated blanks, I can use 99% of my laminated shafts. As opposed to about 50% of Maple shaft blanks...JER
 
Thanks for the responses. sorry, have been working tons of overtime. everyones information is greatLy appreciated
 
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