Joint protectors.......

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Piercyexclusive

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wow, all I see are the same stuff over and over....round and with some designs in it.... then there are chess pieces .....is this cause so they can easily be taken out of the cases?

cause if there were other reasons. I'd like to know.

I think I might go a different way and show everyone that JP should not have to always be made on lathes. I mean, I know there might be things out there that I haven't seen and are cool.... it's just that once people are used to seeing something that's it and creativity dies..

I mean a round piece of wood with a couple of inlays or rings.....40, 50, 60 dollars? man that's expensive. I can see spending that much on JP's if they were more time consuming.

so if you seen some cool ones...post of the pics and lets see what's out there that is different.......

in two weeks I'll make a few things and let you all judge where players want to spend their hard earned money. I think players already spend alot on cues and JP is a field I don't think they should. and if so make it really worth their money. I mean a round piece of wood 30-40 just a small piece....
a little inlay here and there, matching rings? 70-120 from what I've seen maybe a little less...
hell go on ebay type JP yo'll see what I mean . I mean I dont think they should be even more that 15 for a plain piece of wood with a pin or tapped.

Think of the players and consumer just cause they can pay for it....doesn't mean it's also good for business.
people sould post up pics of what they like and how much they would actually pay for it. let the consumers show us , the cuemakers, what is a fair price for these things.

just my thought, I'd like to see what is a good price.
AND make the players more happy by giving them something at a MORE than reasonable price I mean if a player buys a cue and wants matching JP at the time of construction.....I would give it up for free!!!!!! as long as everything was wood not metals or ivory ....should they have any request for metals and ivory I would charge just for the metals price and ivory. but then a again that's me.

this ill make them more happy.
are there cuemakers out there that does this?
I don't know any.....I'm a hermit living in the woods .... so just a thought and a little sharing of my philosophy with Customer Service.
 
Are these different enough for you? They sure start a lot of conversations at the pool hall!
 

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Seems to me a very simple set of joint protectors could be made inexpensively that would fit almost every joint available. Think threadless.

There are those that want hi-end artistic joint protectors, perhaps to even match their expensive cues and probably many more that would simply want joint protectors to fulfill their basic function. There is nothing wrong with either motivation.
 
Its not the wood or materials, its the labor.
Its very easy to look at a simple set of JPs and say "Hey I can do that, and do it cheaper"
I said the same thing.
Ive made many sets. It just isnt true.
A simple 3 pc.set of JPs take approx. 4 hours of actual hands on time.
So if you sell a three piece set for $40, thats $10 an hour.
Thats cheap labor, and we havent even counted the cost of the wood (no matter how low the cost)
I started making them for my cues and had to stop because it was taking to0 much time away from building.

Remember... It's not always about the materials - It's the time and effort.

Thaks
Lee
LP Custom Cues
 
ROFL! 8Ball, that is brilliant! Im gonna make me a set of those. I'll jump up on ebay and find me a few pins right now =) Brilliant!

~Roy
 
DoubleD said:
Kudos to you.

I wouldn't give them away, tho.

I have a theory--pay well for those things which you cannot do or will not do. There are very few things I cannot do--and that includes making cues and joint protectors.

Joint protectors, tho, are one thing I will not do.

Having done them in the past, for friends and for very little money, it just isn't worth it to me.

As for your interesting designs, any chance you could make me a full-sized, 440c steel, sharpened, screw-on tomahawk/war hammer 'joint protector'?

Have fun. Look forward to seeing your designs.

dld
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You know i understand where your coming from, but for you to make a remark such as that (pertaining to making you a warhammer or tamahawk) I hope you have the balls to back it up with (such as paying for one?). I say this cause I'll make you that joint protector with the tamahawk you requested. Got the balls to challenge me and pay for it when it's done.

I did say pay for the metal, so bring it, and challenge me....... put money down sir and try me.
I take what I do seriousely and I have pride in what I do.
So before you make a snide remark(such as making the tamahawk and or warhammer) remember this, back it up with money because you don't know if someone will take you up on it. I will!!!!!!! So let's make a deal. Got the balls man.
 
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Piercyexclusive said:
You known understand where your coming from but for you to make a remark such as that I hope you hot the balls to back it up with. I say this cause I'll make you that joint protector with the tamahawk you said got the balls to challenge me and pay for it when it's done.

I did say pay the metal so bring it on and challenge me put money down sir and try me. I take what I do seriousely and I have pride in what I do. So before you make a snide remark remember this back it up with money because you don't know if someone will take you up on it. I will!!!!!!! So let's make a deal. Git the balls man.
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I honestly did not understand one word of that. Let's review the posting process:

1. Write
2. Read what you wrote
3. Hit "Submit"

You forgot step two.
 
9BallMarksman said:
I honestly did not understand one word of that. Let's review the posting process:

1. Write
2. Read what you wrote
3. Hit "Submit"

You forgot step two.
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I type on an iphone and I have automattic spell thing I'll change things when I get home.......
lol...need to understand the functions more.
 
LPCUSTOMCUES said:
Its not the wood or materials, its the labor.
Its very easy to look at a simple set of JPs and say "Hey I can do that, and do it cheaper"
I said the same thing.
Ive made many sets. It just isnt true.
A simple 3 pc.set of JPs take approx. 4 hours of actual hands on time.
So if you sell a three piece set for $40, thats $10 an hour.
Thats cheap labor, and we havent even counted the cost of the wood (no matter how low the cost)
I started making them for my cues and had to stop because it was taking to0 much time away from building.

Remember... It's not always about the materials - It's the time and effort.

Thaks
Lee
LP Custom Cues
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I understand...
it doesn't take me that long though.
I can have someone come to the shop pic what he wants and make them in under an hour for the most part.
and I always have wood ready from cut offs and left over rings laying aside just for those projects. that's all I try to expect a set when a cue is ordered. or I make them when I have free time and have blanks ready ....example turned round (very rough) and drilled for plugs and not for plugs. for me it's always being ready for unexpected things. that way my time isn't wasted.

I mean I run a machine on automatic then while that's running a small lathe on the other side which is a cnc lathe is also running and cutting. so I don't get where the time is a factor...... just on my side of the business. there's nothing to set up except finding the code and press go.
 
Have fun.

All I can say is that if you want to do all of my joint protectors with Matching Ringwork and Engraved Ivory tops for my cues, I will pay you $150 per set provided they come sprayed, polished and are the exact size to match up to the joint and shafts. All I'll have to do is face them off to align the ring work.

I'm sure after one or two sets, you'll change your mind about them.
 
Tony Zinzola said:
Have fun.

All I can say is that if you want to do all of my joint protectors with Matching Ringwork and Engraved Ivory tops for my cues, I will pay you $150 per set provided they come sprayed, polished and are the exact size to match up to the joint and shafts. All I'll have to do is face them off to align the ring work.

I'm sure after one or two sets, you'll change your mind about them.
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first did I not say PAY FOR THE IVORY..... read again then come back and post
 
Tony Zinzola said:
Have fun.

All I can say is that if you want to do all of my joint protectors with Matching Ringwork and Engraved Ivory tops for my cues, I will pay you $150 per set provided they come sprayed, polished and are the exact size to match up to the joint and shafts. All I'll have to do is face them off to align the ring work.

I'm sure after one or two sets, you'll change your mind about them.
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how much you charge? for the JPs? cause I promise you this when I'm done making a set .....you WILL not be able to compare your work with mine.....I WILL BLOW YOU OUT OF THE WATER!!!! That I promise>>>>>> care to put all on the line. and I won't charge as much as you unless they are free upon construction of a cue? !!!!!!!
 
Piercyexclusive said:
first did I not say PAY FOR THE IVORY..... read again then come back and post
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I'll send you all the ivory you need, the G Code. Hell, I'll even send you the wood, silver and Phenolic Rings. You buy the bits and do the work. You'll probably need a set of Mandrels or two as well. My rings require no larger than a .012" cutter. Pieces are cut out of silver sheet.

If this works for you, I'll send you the supplies.

Just so you know what you're getting yourself into, I am attaching a photograph.

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Tony Zinzola said:
I'll send you all the ivory you need, the G Code. Hell, I'll even send you the wood, silver and Phenolic Rings. You buy the bits and do the work. You'll probably need a set of Mandrels or two as well. My rings require no larger than a .012" cutter. Pieces are cut out of silver sheet.

If this works for you, I'll send you the supplies.

Just so you know what you're getting yourself into, I am attaching a photograph.

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enter Jiffy Pop! lol!

Beautiful jp's, Tony.

Best,
Brian kc
 
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