Stroke feedback??

I'm certainly no instructor, but i bet others will tell you about the elbow dropping. your pretty close to how i think my stroke is. but if you can shoot straight through your target line and hit your exact contact point on the CB doing things like you do on the video, hey, it works.

Nice table, what kind is it? and what kind of cloth?

Mike
 
Pretty fair shotmaking with a "One- Stroke" warm up..

Try the same run-out calling the next ball & the hole it will go in.

ENJOY & GOOD LUCK.
 
You're not practicing, you're banging balls. Throwing 15 balls out on the table with no other goal than running them is easy. It would be more instructive to see how your stroke holds up when you're doing something harder - practicing 14.1 or running a rack of rotation.

Your stroke looks good, but most of us look good when we're banging balls. Only quibbles - your elbow rises on the backstroke and you stand up a little early on some shots.

Good luck to you and Happy New Year.
 
Taco said:
You're not practicing, you're banging balls. Throwing 15 balls out on the table with no other goal than running them is easy. It would be more instructive to see how your stroke holds up when you're doing something harder - practicing 14.1 or running a rack of rotation.

Your stroke looks good, but most of us look good when we're banging balls. Only quibbles - your elbow rises on the backstroke and you stand up a little early on some shots.

Good luck to you and Happy New Year.
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I agree, set up a rack and a break shot, open up the balls with that shot and try to get through a few racks leaving that 15th ball to break into the next rack. I think it will force you to play tighter position and have a mission.

Good shooting!
 
Some of you apparently have trouble reading people original posts. It clearly states that I was looking for feedback on my stroke. I do my fair share of practicing but this is just banging balls hence the description on YouTube. Stick to the title.

Thanks
 
Others are kind of touching on this, but I'll add some. Basically, everything looks great in this video. I think it is what you are not showing which you want comment on.

How does this look playing 9 ball? I think if you show a video where you are trying to run a broke 9 ball rack, your stroke break downs might appear. For now, everything looks solid. I think this is because in this format 90% of your leave are pure table speed.

Good luck.
 
As was pointed out before i see, and i noticed it right away before seeing other responses. You have a severe elbow drop issue.. i dont know if this is new to you or if it is something that you have always done...

to rectify it try to shorten your bridge length to about 4 or 5 inches...try this out for a little while while you practice with the camera on and just watch your fundamentals and see if they change..

And i really agree with practicing 14.1, but then again i am a 14.1 Junkie !!!

-Steve
 
video taping your self is great, very smart, but to put it out to a bunch of amateurs who know nothing of teaching, was pretty dumb. Its a wonder they have not told you to take up bowling. Only give this tape, to a qualified instructor, to analyze, and then take lessons from him to correct any flaws he see's. As long as you are searching for free pool lessons, you are going to get what you pay for. Nothing.
 
iownthe412 said:
Some of you apparently have trouble reading people original posts. It clearly states that I was looking for feedback on my stroke. I do my fair share of practicing but this is just banging balls hence the description on YouTube. Stick to the title.

Thanks
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Boy, sorry I answered. Was only trying to help in a friendly way.

Still, good luck & Happy New Year.
 
stevekur1 said:
As was pointed out before i see, and i noticed it right away before seeing other responses. You have a severe elbow drop issue.. i dont know if this is new to you or if it is something that you have always done...

to rectify it try to shorten your bridge length to about 4 or 5 inches...try this out for a little while while you practice with the camera on and just watch your fundamentals and see if they change..

And i really agree with practicing 14.1, but then again i am a 14.1 Junkie !!!

-Steve
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Thanks Steve. Very good advice. I will work on that.
 
-You're dropping your elbow when making contact with the cue ball. Not recommended.
-You're not very still over the cue ball.
-Sometimes you're moving off the shot before you've really finished your stroke. Stay down, be still, don't move until the cue ball comes nearly to a halt after stroking.
-While as you say you're just banging balls, on some shots you are a bit high over the ball. Get lower.
- Your actual stroke often is not perpendicular to the table. Work on developing a more level cue stroke.
 
5am said:
-You're dropping your elbow when making contact with the cue ball. Not recommended.
-You're not very still over the cue ball.
-Sometimes you're moving off the shot before you've really finished your stroke. Stay down, be still, don't move until the cue ball comes nearly to a halt after stroking.
-While as you say you're just banging balls, on some shots you are a bit high over the ball. Get lower.
- Your actual stroke often is not perpendicular to the table. Work on developing a more level cue stroke.
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Yeah, what he said. And again, what I was dittoing from Taco's post, was the very short version of these kind of suggestions.

What I left out was that by just hitting balls around as you were, the tendency is to get a tad sloppy and isn't a fair assessment of your stroke, which is what you want to know about.

Sorry if you took offense to the posts, and my fault for not elaborating, but really, smacking balls around isn't a good way to evaluate a stroke.

Like Steve, I'm a 14.1 nut so I suggest that game as a good way to hone your stroke, speed and touch and give the folks here on the forum a better way to judge.
 
3andstop said:
Yeah, what he said. And again, what I was dittoing from Taco's post, was the very short version of these kind of suggestions.

What I left out was that by just hitting balls around as you were, the tendency is to get a tad sloppy and isn't a fair assessment of your stroke, which is what you want to know about.

Sorry if you took offense to the posts, and my fault for not elaborating, but really, smacking balls around isn't a good way to evaluate a stroke.

Like Steve, I'm a 14.1 nut so I suggest that game as a good way to hone your stroke, speed and touch and give the folks here on the forum a better way to judge.
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Well put. For the record, the title of the youtube video is "Pool PRACTICE." I hadn't read the fine print. What four different people have been trying to tell the OP is that evaluating a stroke based on running 15 tossed-on balls isn't going to expose the flaws. Unless you're Mika or Ralf or someone else of that caliber, your stroke is probably going to get squidgy when faced with a tough shot or when loose position is going to bite you in the ass.

Good luck & Happy New Year to all.
 
3andstop said:
I agree, set up a rack and a break shot, open up the balls with that shot and try to get through a few racks leaving that 15th ball to break into the next rack. I think it will force you to play tighter position and have a mission.

Good shooting!
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That is asking for 14:1 knowledge that he may not have aquired......yet...and setting up for that damn break ball is the hardest part of 14:1...IMO

I would suggest just rolling all 15 balls on the table.....pocket the first 10 in any random order...but pocket the last 5 balls in rotation.

It will still force planning.....It will also show strokes for both 14:1 shots and rotation type shots.....

From what I saw...the flaws were when he was shooting off the rail, and when he juiced up the CB.

Even though he was not really playing shape for anything....It seemed like he intended to play shape on something, but at times the CB got away from him.....

Even though you pocket the ball....If you don't get shape...it is still a miss in my book....and is either lack of knowledge on what the CB is going to do...or just enough of a stroke flaw to pocket the ball...but not get the "desired" action on the CB.... I think at least for a few shots you fell into this second category.

I am guessing you probably already know what you perceive as your own stroke flaws from watching the video.....

If you really want to magnify the stroke flaws to yourself....just set up like you are, but right before you take your actual stroke...close your eyes....all your body movements and stroke inconsistencies will become very obvious when shooting with your eyes closed.
 
Great advice from everyone. Sorry Taco, not trying to be a d$%k but sometimes on this forum people seem to stray from the op. I understand your post now that you have clarified. Thanks for all the help.

Happy New Year!!!
 
In some cases, you are coming up before you even begin the final stroke.
The elbow is dropping a lot.
I observed a little side to side motion with the tip on a couple of shots.
Your finish distance seems to be inconsistant.

Just a few observations FWIW.

Steve
 
Nice shooting ,your stroke is a lot like mine .I drop the elbow and always will.
The game is about making balls and your doing it.

Elbow dropping is not recommended.(what a crock of sh!t)
If you do it and you make balls great and if you don't do it and make balls
that would be good to wouldn't it?
What makes a great stroke is the straightness of it!
 
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